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There are so many funny directions this UM opening could go, but Will Wade could really do the funniest thing now...
That be my vote, if only because there could be no hire that would be riskier. You know Wade would cheat his butt off there.
Might as well continue the cheater U tradition.
altgeld88
- Arlington, Virginia
It'll be Boynton for at least a year. They'll shop around next season and lock in someone proven thereafter, I'd guess, having diligently scanned his Instagram account for OnlyFans followings/followers.
May its AD remain Warde Manuel in perpetuity, may its scandal-plagued athletic dept never veer from its perfidious course, and may continued turmoil characterize the presidency of the university and the governing Regents.
I mean, LSU's roster is a mess right now and hinges on some guys that are almost certainly not eligible (they may literally not have a #9thman depending on how those eligibility decisions go). NC St. may end up suing LSU over how their hiring of Wade went down. That whole situation is a bit of a mess.
Kinda seems like jumping ship would be the most Will Wade thing a Will Wade could do.
Of course you're right, but a man can dream, can't he?
ptgrd23
- orange county CA
Michigan will have tough time recruiting a good coach.
1. Football school
2. Top coaches are not moving anymore. Assuming your minimum requirement is recent elite 8 appearance
2023 Hurley, Painter, Oates, Barnes Keats (fired) Brownell, Barnes and Scheyer
2024 Golden Scheyer Sampson Pearl (retired) McCasland Oates Barnes Izzo
2025 May, Hurley Lloyd, Underwood, McCollum Scheyer, Painter and Barnes
Brownell Clemson has been there 16 years and only 1 elite 8 appearance
McCasland Texas Tech - only been there 3 years. TTech has unlimited $NIL and is willing to break any rule
McCollum Iowa - already turned down UNC
Plus KY job will probably be open
Maybe Cronin will want to return to MW
Somebody on this board keeps promoting Schertz from St Louis but he only has one round of 32
OLDER elite 8 coaches
Izzo 71
Barnes 70
Sampson 79
Underwood 62
Painter 55
1. Football school
2. Top coaches are not moving anymore. Assuming your minimum requirement is recent elite 8 appearance
2023 Hurley, Painter, Oates, Barnes Keats (fired) Brownell, Barnes and Scheyer
2024 Golden Scheyer Sampson Pearl (retired) McCasland Oates Barnes Izzo
2025 May, Hurley Lloyd, Underwood, McCollum Scheyer, Painter and Barnes
Brownell Clemson has been there 16 years and only 1 elite 8 appearance
McCasland Texas Tech - only been there 3 years. TTech has unlimited $NIL and is willing to break any rule
McCollum Iowa - already turned down UNC
Plus KY job will probably be open
Maybe Cronin will want to return to MW
Somebody on this board keeps promoting Schertz from St Louis but he only has one round of 32
OLDER elite 8 coaches
Izzo 71
Barnes 70
Sampson 79
Underwood 62
Painter 55
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altgeld88
- Arlington, Virginia
lol. I was talking to a colleague who's a UM alum as he bemoaned the state of the athletic dept and university leadership. I noted that if they don't lock in Boynton stat, then they're looking worst-case sitch at a post-Wade (v.1) LSU debacle in which they have 2-3 players left, one of whom is a former manager and none of whom are BT players.
BTW, I flew from DC to Minneapolis last week. Window seat and had a splendid view of the west end of Lake Erie, Southern Ontario and the Windsor/Detroit area, then the DTW airport, then Ann Arbor. I looked down upon the Big House and Crisler and wished ill upon the inhabitants. Accordingly, I take full credit for this maelstrom, and Bryce Underwood's impending nervous breakdown.
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Thank you for your service to the cause.lol. I was talking to a colleague who's a UM alum as he bemoaned the state of the athletic dept and university leadership. I noted that if they don't lock in Boynton stat, then they're looking worst-case sitch at a post-Wade (v.1) LSU debacle in which they have 2-3 players left, one of whom is a former manager and none of whom are BT players.
BTW, I flew from DC to Minneapolis last week. Window seat and had a splendid view of the west end of Lake Erie, Southern Ontario and the Windsor/Detroit area, then the DTW airport, then Ann Arbor. I looked down upon the Big House and Crisler and wished ill upon the inhabitants. Accordingly, I take full credit for this maelstrom, and Bryce Underwood's impending nervous breakdown.
When he committed he was not.
I also would be a bit surprised if he's not 7thish man on this UM team
wettsten
- Chicago
or he could poach the players. does he have enough eligible players for a team yet?
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
Very Michigan to still be complaining after winning national titles in both sports in a three year span.
They don't want to win nearly as much as they want to be told lullabyes about how special they are forever and ever.
Thank you Altgeld88 for teaching me a new word in each of your posts...perfidious. I'm going to use it in my golf group tomorrow and watch them give me side eye! Kudos.
altgeld88
- Arlington, Virginia
It's difficult to overstate how conflicted the alums I meet are about those two titles, the concurrent scandals, and the inability/incompetence of Warde Manuel regarding hanging on to Harbaugh and May. For example, the Sherrone Moore debacle, and many others as egregious but less publicized, in which not even the least due diligence was done during the hiring phase about reputational risks. Some of them fall back on "Harbaugh didn't know because he's autistic/a genius/naive." lol
My colleague, however, sees clearly. He cherishes the titles and also expresses embarrassment at the scandals and inability to keep top coaches (they're now into garment-rending recriminations over Beilein bolting to the Cavs a decade ago.) Oh, and the clown show that the university presidency has become. He noted yesterday when we spoke about this that they're sinking into Spartan territory in this area, and as we all know there's no more horrifying thought to a Michigan Man(TM) than that.
But yeah: Leaders and Best. Always and forever.
I'm glad I saw us kick the snot out them in Crisler last year. (The fans streaming for the exits with ~10 mins remaining when our lead stretched to 15 was as delicious a moment of schadenfreude as I've enjoyed.) I don't need to go back there again anytime soon.
It’s so wild how different the overall gauge of actual reality is when talking sports with people in person than online.
It’s either these are all entirely different people, or else it’s just these same people who are just more reasonable in an offline discussion where there’s no anonymity and some level of accountability versus when they get online and are maybe a lot more “out there” with their various takes.
This is where it feels like Michigan has some fan out there making wishes on an old monkey paw, asking for championships, only for the curse to come due during and immediately after each one (I know administrative incompetence is probably the curse itself, but more fun to think about this way).
In 2023, Michigan put together its best football team in a long time, only for the Connor Stalions sign-stealing scandal to become the overriding storyline. They still won the championship despite the controversy, prior and subsequent coaching suspensions, and all the noise around the program. Then Harbaugh left, the program was handed to Sherrone Moore, which obviously spiraled further.
Their basketball team put together a top-tier roster (by slithering around, tampering, and doing whatever else goes on behind the scenes) to win a championship and then have their coach leave for the NBA at the eleventh hour right before the season starts, leaving the entire roster in question.
Seems like a curse to me. As an Illini fan, it is a lot more enjoyable (and sustainable) winning the right way.
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
I would respect "we win you lose cry more" 10000X more than all the desperation to be considered honorable and the gold standard stuff.
It all ultimately comes back to Woody and Bo, who were both the exact same person, absolute scoundrels who would cut any corner to get and stay on top. Ohio State understands and embraces this, which for as horrible and destructive as they are for the conference at least makes them immeasurably less annoying than the Michigan Man people.
Fascinating.
As a thought exercise, I’m curious to what our board’s feedback would be to the, following question:
* In the past 15 years, who has had the more inept, dysfunctional leadership: Michigan or Michigan State?
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RabidDawgClassic
- Los Angeles, CA
I like this… the University of Michigan Monkey Paws.
foby
- Bonnaroo Land
Tang back at Baylor.
sports.yahoo.com
Edit: This might be old news. If so, forgive me I've had a long day. Lol
Jerome Tang rejoins Baylor staff after 4 years away at Kansas State
Jerome Tang has rejoined Baylor's staff as associate head coach after four years away, during which he led Kansas State to an NCAA Elite Eight in his first season as head coach but was fired in mid-February after the Wildcats lost 11 of their first 12 Big 12 games. Baylor coach Scott Drew on...
Edit: This might be old news. If so, forgive me I've had a long day. Lol
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Heckuva curse. Two championships.
OrangeBlue98
Iowa is not in a great spot right now (LvilleILL1)
- Des Moines, IA
I was thinking more of a “deal with the devil” situation……
OrangeBlue98
Iowa is not in a great spot right now (LvilleILL1)
- Des Moines, IA
I tend to think actively covering up sexual assault is worse than anything Michigan has done, so I’ll say MSU.
Bad deal for the devil. Wasn't Michigan already going to hell?
If your goal is to win championships, not have a horrifying Sandusky-esque gymnastics trainer and not post Hitler on your stadium video board...it's got to be UM, yeah?
Moore and Tucker are pretty break even. But MSU has been laughably foul for a bit now and they just hired Fitzy
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I learned something here. I missed the memo on the Hitler on the video board. I had to look that up.
Yeah it would be pretty hard to disagree with that take. The Lou Anna Simon-regime is enough right there to put them over the top. (At least the stuff that’s public knowledge.)
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