DC Bobby Hauck out at Illinois

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Brett really screwed the pooch on this hire as he did with his first OC. The good news is he is dealing with it sooner rather than later. Unfortunately IMO no matter what defense they field many of the defensive personnel is not suitable for B1G play. I also don’t think they can just change up the type of defense they have prepared to run since spring. I hope they can adjust in a positive way, but whatever the reason, this experiment has put the program in a very, very tough spot.
 
#205      
Man, I’ll be real, I don’t think there’s a positive way to spin this one. This isn’t even a “traditional” midseason firing, it’s early season. Not only is this difficult to recover from in the current season but I worry that this quick and early of a firing after 4 games may result in some serious negative recruiting and difficulties in hiring a new DC past this season.

Based on the low talent level of the DL and LB group, such little push and penetration I don’t think there’s really a good answer here. We knew offseason switching schemes without the talent or personnel would be a major issue and it would take time for the players to learn the new system and execute. And while we were clearly far more behind schedule than expected, I do think we have been improving week to week, just our starting point was so low and we have to sell out so much to stop the run, it still looks terrible.

So overall I don’t love the timing of this firing at all even if the poor play of the defense, the communication issues, and the clear lack of player understanding of the defensive scheme and playbook, supports letting him go. I think this is an absolute mess and I pray that this is only going to be 1 season of suffering that we can somehow still eke out 6 wins and not a death blow to our program momentum.

Really shocked by the timing of this.
The bolded is the issue I have with cutting ties after 4 games. The question is how low exactly is the talent level. If we rank 64 out of 69 P4 schools, is that the type of talent we have out there? If it's as slow as it looks, only money being thrown at it is going to fix it. I get it that mistakes were made that had to be addressed (9 guys), but far more problematic was the clear and wide difference in talent. In today's game/recruiting, have to fatten up the wallet or it won't matter who they bring in.
 
#207      
What sucks the most is how good the offense is. An Aaron Henry #45 ranked defense likely gets us to 8 wins this year. Now, I’d put the O/U at 5.5.

We don’t have the talent to have a #45 ranked defense. We lost Gabe, Rosiek, Miles Scott, James Thompson, Angelo McCollum, Tomiwa, Eli Coenen, Curt Neal, Hood..etc we literally replaced them with FCS back ups. Tomiwa is the #8 ranked dt by pff. We had a lot of talent on defense the last couple years.

Purdue, MSU and Maryland are games we need to win.
 
#208      
I worry that this quick and early of a firing after 4 games may result in some serious negative recruiting and difficulties in hiring a new DC past this season.
I see no problem with potential hires understanding it. Just look at defensive performance in those four games, culminating with a 9-person goal line stand. We don’t want to hire anyone who’d consider such results even remotely tolerable.
 
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Do you think they'll stay in the 3-3-5?
Sure. I'm not sure how many snaps have seen us actually use three down linemen with backers stacked or ends wide. The problem is the personnel - we can't conjure more B1G-ready DTs from nowhere.

Until someone with knowledge of practices and our depth chart tells us that we have big kids ready to go, we've got to assume that our light 4-man and 5-man fronts are no worse than our best attempt at a normal heavy one.

No experienced head coach would allow a new coordinator to stick his program with a 3-3-5 for pride or funsies, and Bret knows his stuff more than most. In that same vein, he wouldn't need to wait until midseason to fire a coach to get a scheme change. In our situation, he can ultimately only be upset at himself for choice of scheme. What he won't and shouldn't hold himself responsible for is the major flubs and perceived inadequate coaching. He's talked about getting that addressed, and this weekend he took it to the next level.

He's not a perfect head coach, but he's a very good one.
 
#210      
lol

Coach B's insistence on having a soft landing for Henry factors in big time here. And the Seahawks D coach who changed his mind really put us in a bind
I get why Bielema was trying for the soft landing, but unfortunately sometimes you just have to be ruthless with personnel moves and do your best to deal with the human issues. I know looking back on times I’ve had to make personnel moves like this, the ones I regret are the ones where I waited too long hoping a situation would work itself out.

Sometimes, you just have to do the hard thing. Bielema made a mistake there.
 
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I see no problem with potential hires understanding it. Just look at defensive performance in those four games, culminating with a 9-person goal line stand. We don’t want to hire anyone who’d consider such results even remotely tolerable.
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#213      
Illinois has not had a great defense since Walter's was here. Sorely need a ton of talent on that side of the ball.
 
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We don’t have the talent to have a #45 ranked defense. We lost Gabe, Rosiek, Miles Scott, James Thompson, Angelo McCollum, Tomiwa, Eli Coenen, Curt Neal, Hood..etc we literally replaced them with FCS back ups. Tomiwa is the #8 ranked dt by pff. We had a lot of talent on defense the last couple years.

Purdue, MSU and Maryland are games we need to win.
Fair. But without a scheme change / staff change, there wouldn’t be confusion on the field, miscommunication, etc. That alone’s worth 20 spots in the rankings.
 
#215      
Sometimes, you just have to do the hard thing. Bielema made a mistake there.
He might have made a mistake there. I truly believe that he sees still sees high potential in Henry as a schemer, coach, recruiter, or all of the above. We all think that he's overly optimistic about that, but it's not blind loyalty if he's setting him up as well as possible for his own purposes, such as a return or reunion.. or just avoiding coaching against him.
 
#216      
Fair. But without a scheme change / staff change, there wouldn’t be confusion on the field, miscommunication, etc. That alone’s worth 20 spots in the rankings.

We had a ton of miscommunication on the field and blown coverage last year. We ran one of the worst zones I had ever seen. No DC would look good with this talent but I do agree that the coaching was extremely bad. I think just getting rid of Hauck will be an addition by subtract. Roger Cooper has called this defense before and it made no sense that Hauck was calling the plays in to Cooper who would then talk to the green dot on the field.
 
#217      
Man, I’ll be real, I don’t think there’s a positive way to spin this one. This isn’t even a “traditional” midseason firing, it’s early season. Not only is this difficult to recover from in the current season but I worry that this quick and early of a firing after 4 games may result in some serious negative recruiting and difficulties in hiring a new DC past this season.

Based on the low talent level of the DL and LB group, such little push and penetration I don’t think there’s really a good answer here. We knew offseason switching schemes without the talent or personnel would be a major issue and it would take time for the players to learn the new system and execute. And while we were clearly far more behind schedule than expected, I do think we have been improving week to week, just our starting point was so low and we have to sell out so much to stop the run, it still looks terrible.

So overall I don’t love the timing of this firing at all even if the poor play of the defense, the communication issues, and the clear lack of player understanding of the defensive scheme and playbook, supports letting him go. I think this is an absolute mess and I pray that this is only going to be 1 season of suffering that we can somehow still eke out 6 wins and not a death blow to our program momentum.

Really shocked by the timing of this.
Anyone worth a darn will realize it’s not the norm for Coach B. It would be concerning if this was his normal operating procedure with how he handled termination of coaches. The issue is with the hiring to begin with and not the timing of the termination.
 
#219      
Hauck coached like a guy that was retired. And I'm sure that was brought up in conversations.

No clue what the upside of this hire was. BB looks like a fool.
 
#220      
My guess is Cooper or Bradford will call the defense for the remainder of the season. Then after the season Bret will make a new hire. Probably had to happens, I don’t think Bobby was truly Bret’s first choice when hired, I think someone went back on their word and forced Bret to pivot. Bret has known Bobby for awhile and I think Bobby thought he would be reinvigorated to coach again with just being able to focus on the defense now. Obviously I don’t think that was the case. Too many mistakes that can’t happen at this level, heck even at the high school level you don’t see a lot of this stuff. We will know more tomorrow at Bret’s presser though.
FWIW Bret and the staff love Roger Cooper… I imagine he gives Roger a chance the rest of the way
 
#221      
CoachB owns this mess. He lost his mind in year 6, at Wisconsin and also Arkansas. They beat teams that the Razorbacks hadn't beaten since their National title in 60's at Arkansas. We have been blessed and fortunate with great 1 score games for 2 straight years. This is a train wreck. I have us at most 4 Wins. No major Portal talent this Winter and all of you, Will be calling for his scalp next Fall. $9 million reasons why.
 
#225      
He might have made a mistake there. I truly believe that he sees still sees high potential in Henry as a schemer, coach, recruiter, or all of the above. We all think that he's overly optimistic about that, but it's not blind loyalty if he's setting him up as well as possible for his own purposes, such as a return or reunion.. or just avoiding coaching against him.
He can see all sorts of potential in Henry and hope to be reunited, but this was absolutely a mistake. Nice mights about it.

I love Bielema. He just went too far with his loyalty on this one.
 
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