The 2014 Illini Nike Uniforms and Rebrand

[SuperMetroid]

Has this been posted yet? Looks like Syracuse fans prefer our uniforms by a 2-to-1 margin.

http://www.nunesmagician.com/2014/4/17/5623182/syracuse-football-uniforms-new-illinois-orange-blue

From the little bit of searching I've done on various other sites, this seems to be the consensus. Most non-Illini fans seem to like our new stuff.

 

[matt1all]

Further, I believe that many who were on the fence regarding the logo when they first looked at it were drawn in by the enthusiasm of posters like Matt. That's fine. But if you don't think that is reality, you should pick up a book on the physiological bases of psychology.

This is what I'm talking about I didn't even what I said what I like or don't like. Yet I'm a victim o groupthink?

I said I liked a lot of thigs and didn't like some. Never mentioned where the shield at all.

I think you're a victim of group psychology because GHD was saying it. Do you see how little bearing or foundation that claim has?

Like I don't care what your opinion of the rebrand cuz like I said it doesn't really matter and neither does mine.

What icant believe people do is try to conjure up reasons how someone could possibly like something. They make these claims out of thin air.

And I'm sorry but that kind of insults intelligence to think each person can't come up with their own opinion.
Granted maybe some people are but how can you claim that's why everyone likes it?

And oh I'll pass on picking up a book because I've taken enough classes here at the university to contribute to this message board I think. Just please.

Ok 2nd rant over. I apologize

 

[whitesxfan2012]

have we discussed the bow tie on the 'cuse uniforms yet? lol

I finally caught up on this thread and I'm a bit surprised nobody commented about the "bow-tie". That's much more obvious than our zig zag homage to the Chief.

If Syracuse can get away with obvious tomahawks, we should be able to have a feather or two somewhere.

 

[IntenselyOrange]

Well the problem is the people who like it only like it because of group think. The Syracuse fans liking our uniforms is Syracuse group think.

This is what I'm talking about I didn't even what I said what I like or don't like. Yet I'm a victim o groupthink?

I said I liked a lot of thigs and didn't like some. Never mentioned where the shield at all.

I think you're a victim of group psychology because GHD was saying it. Do you see how little bearing or foundation that claim has?

Like I don't care what your opinion of the rebrand cuz like I said it doesn't really matter and neither does mine.

What icant believe people do is try to conjure up reasons how someone could possibly like something. They make these claims out of thin air.

And I'm sorry but that kind of insults intelligence to think each person can't come up with their own opinion.
Granted maybe some people are but how can you claim that's why everyone likes it?

And oh I'll pass on picking up a book because I've taken enough classes here at the university to contribute to this message board I think. Just please.

Ok 2nd rant over. I apologize

Since you guys seem to struggle a little bit in your reading comprehension, let me re-phrase as I would to my 5 year old.

It's not that any person can't like it. It's not that a lot of people can't like it. It's not that any person can't love it. It's the over the top worship of the shield/badge that suggests that for some there is a bit of groupthink going on.

You have people instantly posting "team shield". You have others applauding those that get on board with their opinion. It's very Notre Dame football-y to me.

We all stated going in to the rebrand that almost certainly there would be 50% of people that loved what was done and 50% of people who dislike what was done. That is human nature. That was a good prediction. That it seems 90% of people are not only in the approval, but the love camp, indicates that there is more to it than just liking the logo.

This is a statistical improbability.

 

[IntenselyOrange]

But isn't "you only like it because it's ours" a fairly all-in proposition? If that holds, how come I don't like the two-tone lettering and think the zig zags on our bball uniforms are hideous?

Not exactly. I don't think artistic details compare to a symbol. The former are easily changed. The latter probably is not.

 

[KansasIllini]

I finally caught up on this thread and I'm a bit surprised nobody commented about the "bow-tie". That's much more obvious than our zig zag homage to the Chief.

If Syracuse can get away with obvious tomahawks, we should be able to have a feather or two somewhere.

Not sure if you had seen it, but I believe the technical description of their crest/shield/neck patch is that it's a "44" to represent Syracuse's history of the #44 with Ernie Davis, Jim Brown and Floyd Little. I'm also assuming you were joking a little with the post anyway

 

[matt1all]

Since you guys seem to struggle a little bit in your reading comprehension, let me re-phrase as I would to my 5 year old.

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I'm just not gonna even. You may be right. I said that. But when you say all this stuff it looks like you are putting yourself and your opinions as better then everyone else's. I know you're not trying to but it comes off as arrogant especially what you said in that first line. I do respect your opinion and believe it very could be correct. It's too bad you can't see what I'm actually trying To say and respect mine

 

[illiniCA]

Since you guys seem to struggle a little bit in your reading comprehension, let me re-phrase as I would to my 5 year old.

It's not that any person can't like it. It's not that a lot of people can't like it. It's not that any person can't love it. It's the over the top worship of the shield/badge that suggests that for some there is a bit of groupthink going on.

You have people instantly posting "team shield". You have others applauding those that get on board with their opinion. It's very Notre Dame football-y to me.

We all stated going in to the rebrand that almost certainly there would be 50% of people that loved what was done and 50% of people who dislike what was done. That is human nature. That was a good prediction. That it seems 90% of people are not only in the approval, but the love camp, indicates that there is more to it than just liking the logo.

This is a statistical improbability.

Totally disagree. No one would expect 50-50 unless the rebrand was intended to be controversial. In general, there were going to be a small percentage of people who hated it no matter what. A small percentage who loved it no matter what. A large percentage who were going to very happy if the rebrand was good even if it wasn't perfect.

I think that rebrand was good (not perfect) and that is the response you are getting. However, the most negative and most positive people will always speak loudest. Since the majority is satisfied with the rebrand the negative people are going to get shot down the most.

 

[DaytonIllini]

Since you guys seem to struggle a little bit in your reading comprehension, let me re-phrase as I would to my 5 year old.

It's not that any person can't like it. It's not that a lot of people can't like it. It's not that any person can't love it. It's the over the top worship of the shield/badge that suggests that for some there is a bit of groupthink going on.

You have people instantly posting "team shield". You have others applauding those that get on board with their opinion. It's very Notre Dame football-y to me.

We all stated going in to the rebrand that almost certainly there would be 50% of people that loved what was done and 50% of people who dislike what was done. That is human nature. That was a good prediction. That it seems 90% of people are not only in the approval, but the love camp, indicates that there is more to it than just liking the logo.

This is a statistical improbability.

I'm pretty sure the Team Shield thing is tongue in cheek.

I was likely to not like this. I hate change in general and I am rarely positively moved by what others think. I was liking our colors and the block I. I was pleasantly surprised that the uniforms were not garish, or nauseating to look at. Taste is in each person's head. I have actually liked two of the shields our posters have modified more than the Nike version. That said, it's pretty good overall.

 

[DaytonIllini]

I think that rebrand was good (not perfect) and that is the response you are getting. However, the most negative and most positive people will always speak loudest. Since the majority is satisfied with the rebrand the negative people are going to get shot down the most.

That's quite true.

 

[matt1all]

I'm pretty sure the Team Shield thing is tongue in cheek.

This

 

[Toews]

Since you guys seem to struggle a little bit in your reading comprehension, let me re-phrase as I would to my 5 year old.

It's not that any person can't like it. It's not that a lot of people can't like it. It's not that any person can't love it. It's the over the top worship of the shield/badge that suggests that for some there is a bit of groupthink going on.

You have people instantly posting "team shield". You have others applauding those that get on board with their opinion. It's very Notre Dame football-y to me.

We all stated going in to the rebrand that almost certainly there would be 50% of people that loved what was done and 50% of people who dislike what was done. That is human nature. That was a good prediction. That it seems 90% of people are not only in the approval, but the love camp, indicates that there is more to it than just liking the logo.

This is a statistical improbability.

"Maybe. I think, and it's only my thought, but I think you guys like it because it's ours. Maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. I honestly don't even care. If it was 50/50 I would agree that it's just a case of some like it some don't. The seemingly 90/10 nature of it suggests to me that there is some underlying psychology going on.

Of course the possibility does remain that I just don't have any taste. My wife would gladly get on here and argue for that"

Ya seems like I struggled with reading comprehension. Where do you say Team Shield, all you say is there may be 90/10 because of group think.

 

[Shiloh]

We all stated going in to the rebrand that almost certainly there would be 50% of people that loved what was done and 50% of people who dislike what was done. That is human nature. That was a good prediction. That it seems 90% of people are not only in the approval, but the love camp, indicates that there is more to it than just liking the logo.

This is a statistical improbability.

Who stated that? Just because there are 2 options, to like something or not like something, doesn't mean you should expect 50% approval. That's just weird.

And where are you getting 90% of people love the shield from? That seems to not be the case at all and I think a lot of the "team shield" thing was just to piss off groundhog day.

 

[Warriors1994]

I'm pretty sure the saying is that 10% will love it no matter what and 10% will hate it no matter what. Not 50/50

 

[Neidermeyer]

I finally caught up on this thread and I'm a bit surprised nobody commented about the "bow-tie". That's much more obvious than our zig zag homage to the Chief.

If Syracuse can get away with obvious tomahawks, we should be able to have a feather or two somewhere.

Those are actually a "44" reference I believe.

 

[KansasIllini]

From the little bit of searching I've done on various other sites, this seems to be the consensus. Most non-Illini fans seem to like our new stuff.

Going with that, the brief reaction I got from a K-Stater was "Those look pretty good. Modern, but simple."

 

[illinicb]

I finally caught up on this thread and I'm a bit surprised nobody commented about the "bow-tie". That's much more obvious than our zig zag homage to the Chief.

If Syracuse can get away with obvious tomahawks, we should be able to have a feather or two somewhere.

FYI, the Syracuse symbol/mascot was once the Saltine Warriors. I'll try to find a photo.

 

[whitesxfan2012]

Not sure if you had seen it, but I believe the technical description of their crest/shield/neck patch is that it's a "44" to represent Syracuse's history of the #44 with Ernie Davis, Jim Brown and Floyd Little. I'm also assuming you were joking a little with the post anyway

Yes, I figured I should put the face in there, in case anyone thought I had a serious tone.

Pretty slick on their part. That is my favorite part of Syracuse's rebrand.

 

[pizzaman]

In recent memory the only (good or bad) reaction I have had to a B1G team uniform was the Indiana helmet that looked like a Christmas tree ornament. When I'm watching a game (and I don't watch much other than B1G games) I don't pay much attention to uniforms and, as this thread confirms, there has been way too much attention given to the new Illini unis. Of course it is the offseason.

 

[Stevegarbs]

I'm pretty sure the Team Shield thing is tongue in cheek.

I was likely to not like this. I hate change in general and I am rarely positively moved by what others think. I was liking our colors and the block I. I was pleasantly surprised that the uniforms were not garish, or nauseating to look at. Taste is in each person's head. I have actually liked two of the shields our posters have modified more than the Nike version. That said, it's pretty good overall.

That's a rough way to go through life. I think you are missing out on some of what the world has to offer you.

 

[matt1all]

Just remember we could have gotten those syracuse uniforms. Some one gave those an okay :crazy: Because of that I am forever grateful :hail:

 

[AHSIllini32]

Did you ever consider why you are so upset by the few of us that don't like it?

Yeah how dare people get upset when they get accused of only liking something because everyone else does. I mean, the audacity!

Did you ever consider why you and ghd are so vehemently trying to bash it and draw ridiculous comparisons?

 

[IlliniCaboose]

That's quite true.

TOY STORY 2 WAS OKAY!!!!!

 

[AngryOrange]

We all stated going in to the rebrand that almost certainly there would be 50% of people that loved what was done and 50% of people who dislike what was done. That is human nature. That was a good prediction. That it seems 90% of people are not only in the approval, but the love camp, indicates that there is more to it than just liking the logo.

This is a statistical improbability.

From a development point of view, a company would never develop a product with a 50% acceptance rate. That would equate to ~40% survival rate of the product within 3 years. A 90% acceptance rate is FAR from a statistical improbability. It is rare, but hardly unheard of for an acceptance rate, especially with a loyal following for the product. No large corporation would launch a product that is to be used in a commercial space with an acceptance rate of <60%. Talking psychology is fun, but at the end of the day this is a commercial enterprise for Nike, economics and purchase intent is much more important. The Shield/Badge has that.

 

[mattcoldagelli]

Since you guys seem to struggle a little bit in your reading comprehension, let me re-phrase as I would to my 5 year old.

It's not that any person can't like it. It's not that a lot of people can't like it. It's not that any person can't love it. It's the over the top worship of the shield/badge that suggests that for some there is a bit of groupthink going on.

You have people instantly posting "team shield". You have others applauding those that get on board with their opinion. It's very Notre Dame football-y to me.

We all stated going in to the rebrand that almost certainly there would be 50% of people that loved what was done and 50% of people who dislike what was done. That is human nature. That was a good prediction. That it seems 90% of people are not only in the approval, but the love camp, indicates that there is more to it than just liking the logo.

This is a statistical improbability.

Wow, remember when IntenselyOrange said it was the people that liked the shield that were the ones getting upset?

It's almost enough to make you question his self-professed talent for perception, self-awareness and objectivity.