2017 Coaching Carousel

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Don't forget to say you can't wait for these seniors to leave. That has been the narrative for about 10 years now. The seniors are the problem, so and so bench player would make us better and just wait for our underrated NBA ready recruits.

Recruiting hasn't been good enough for a long time.
 
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Two 5 stars on the team and he didn't make the tournament???? He must be a terrible x's and o's guy. Only a recruiter. 😉

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Cheez

Sun Prairie WI
I really want to keep Frazier! Just off of a two minute tape you can see the great quickness we simply don't have. I like Lucas and Nichols and if this class stays together we will be good in a hurry. The great thing about this class is a good point guard, a good big, talent at the right positions. I can't wait for the day when we have a guy or 2 that can't be stopped and he can just make a play and get a bucket .

That's fine and all, but if the case of getting rid of groce is Trent Frazier, everyone here should be on board with wishing that recruit well wherever he goes. Recruits come and go, but the coach shapes the program.
 
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Had someone affiliated with Rebounders tell me, "Avery Johnson is a name to watch".

Johnson has coached at the highest level and appears to be a quality guy. Learning from Larry Brown has to be a positive. I think he'd be a solid hire. I don't know how tied he is to the south.
 
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As far as a new coach goes, the post have been set and now just waiting for the concrete to set. AKA season to end. It will happen quick. There is a candidate. I think he will keep this class also. I trust the person that told me. Not mentioning names but does seem work has taken place. For the record I think Coach Groce is a very upstanding man and coach unfortunately caught some bad breaks.
 
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Interesting. Avery Johnson is bringing in the #5 class in 2017. It includes Collin Sexton, the #7 overall player. If Johnson were to come here I imagine that Sexton would stay in the south or head to a blue blood, but maybe he'd follow his coach? Either way, Johnson has been recruiting at an elite level and has a tremendous coaching pedigree. I'd be all in on that hire.
 
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Interesting. Avery Johnson is bringing in the #5 class in 2017. It includes Collin Sexton, the #7 overall player. If Johnson were to come here I imagine that Sexton would stay in the south or head to a blue blood, but maybe he'd follow his coach? Either way, Johnson has been recruiting at an elite level and has a tremendous coaching pedigree. I'd be all in on that hire.

Avery Johnson intrigues. Would be a pretty bad !!! athletics department sell to say we have a super bowl head coach and NBA finals head coach running our revenue programs. Has any school ever had that at the same time?
 
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Avery Johnson intrigues. Would be a pretty bad !!! athletics department sell to say we have a super bowl head coach and NBA finals head coach running our revenue programs. Has any school ever had that at the same time?

Also a former NFL Coach of the Year and a former NBA Coach of the Year.

Still, what evidence do we have that he's a better college head coach than Cuonzo?
 
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jmilt7

Waukegan
Home Depot, selling ladders.

As someone else said, kind of harsh. By most accounts Groce is apparently a nice decent guy and I don't think anyone can say that he has not been a great representative for the University. Also, considering how I have often been in precarious job situations I don't like to see people losing their jobs although I don't think he will be unemployed long. I posited the idea that maybe he could be retained as a recruiter. He wouldn't have to move his family etc. Maybe we would keep the recruits. But I know that that is unrealistic due to ego, the fact that a new coach would want his own people and just the weirdness of having a former HC on the bench sitting next to the current HC. But in a perfect world…
 
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Money will have very little to do with whether Archie takes the Illini job.

Okay, and what makes you so sure? We could double his salary right now.. so then it comes down to other competition for him. I get he may prefer another school, but don't tell me that a big enough check wouldn't make him consider it.
 
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Okay, and what makes you so sure? We could double his salary right now.. so then it comes down to other competition for him. I get he may prefer another school, but don't tell me that a big enough check wouldn't make him consider it.

As I said before, thinking Archie Miller would turn down NC State for Illinois is like thinking Cory Bradford or Lucas Johnson would turn down Illinois for NC State. Anyone who said such a thing in here would be dismissed as an irrational pessimist.

That's the sort of figure Archie represents there, plus his wife is an alum and former athlete there and her family is from the area.

And NC State's season keeps taking on water and their best player is NBA lottery bound.

Archie to Raleigh is going to happen.
 
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As someone else said, kind of harsh. By most accounts Groce is apparently a nice decent guy and I don't think anyone can say that he has not been a great representative for the University. Also, considering how I have often been in precarious job situations I don't like to see people losing their jobs although I don't think he will be unemployed long. I posited the idea that maybe he could be retained as a recruiter. He wouldn't have to move his family etc. Maybe we would keep the recruits. But I know that that is unrealistic due to ego, the fact that a new coach would want his own people and just the weirdness of having a former HC on the bench sitting next to the current HC. But in a perfect world…

I think it's beyond ego and weirdness. The new coach wouldn't want the previous head coach on his staff for a number of reasons. Also, Groce would have to take an enormous pay cut and that kind of bizarre demotion would undoubtedly stunt his professional development. Of all the insane ideas bounced around in this thread (Tim Miles? Tom Crean? Brad Stevens?), keeping Groce on the incoming staff as lead recruiter takes the cake. Absolutely zero chance it would ever happen.
 
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I think it's beyond ego and weirdness. The new coach wouldn't want the previous head coach on his staff for a number of reasons. Also, Groce would have to take an enormous pay cut and that kind of bizarre demotion would undoubtedly stunt his professional development. Of all the insane ideas bounced around in this thread (Tim Miles? Tom Crean? Brad Stevens?), keeping Groce on the incoming staff as lead recruiter takes the cake. Absolutely zero chance it would ever happen.

Mark my words. Groce will return to Ohio State as an assistant and Ohio State will return to the level they were at five years ago and it will be sickening to watch. This makes Whitman's hire that much more important. We cannot afford to not get this next hire right.
 
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Also a former NFL Coach of the Year and a former NBA Coach of the Year.

Still, what evidence do we have that he's a better college head coach than Cuonzo?

I don't think tactically it's in question considering his NBA success. He seems to be recruiting pretty well, and to a place that doesn't give a damn about basketball. If we're going NBA guys, and yes I still consider Avery an NBA guy and always will, I'd really look into Monty Williams. But if he's a no considering his recent circumstances, I'd take a long hard look at Avery.
 
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jmilt7

Waukegan
I think it's beyond ego and weirdness. The new coach wouldn't want the previous head coach on his staff for a number of reasons. Also, Groce would have to take an enormous pay cut and that kind of bizarre demotion would undoubtedly stunt his professional development. Of all the insane ideas bounced around in this thread (Tim Miles? Tom Crean? Brad Stevens?), keeping Groce on the incoming staff as lead recruiter takes the cake. Absolutely zero chance it would ever happen.

Isn't that what I pretty much what I said?
 
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