GortTheRobot
- North Bethesda, Maryland
You are old. I know that because I am old. Nonetheless, nice allusion.
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You are old. I know that because I am old. Nonetheless, nice allusion.
skyIdub
Winged Warrior
First let me say I am not in favor of keeping John Groce as coach. However, in my opinion, if the Illini come out and beat Michigan, they have a 50/50 chance of making the NCAA tournament and Groce has a 50/50 chance of keeping his job.
If you like what you've seen over the past 5 years, then that may be the best option to get more of the same.
illinoisfan11
- Peoria, IL
No. It's not. Not even close. Nothing about the last 5 years would suggest that to anyone who's been watching.
rmlsr
- El Paso,IL
No it's not! You couldn't be more incorrect!
Because if you take a coach that can't "wow", you're just a gambler. You don't know what he can do, you don't know if he can keep recruits.
If you aren't getting a wow coach, keep Groce. Sign me next to the other guy asking to be flamed.
Didn't he sing "Operator" and "Bad, Bad, Leroy Brown"?
I just can't believe people still have this attitude (or even just want to keep JG outright). The guy has never finished higher than 7th in our conference in 5 years. That is unacceptable...especially for an athletic director whose own slogan is #wewillwin.
I'd rather have to find a new guy every 3-4 years than accept a coach who will keep us mired in mediocrity. It's been 5 years. We know what we have in Groce. It's time to move on, gamble or not, because I want to at least have hope that #wewillwin in the near future.
skyIdub
Winged Warrior
This is the equivalent of saying that ketchup is the best option on your hot dog.
Illini4Reel
- Champaign, IL.
Do athletic directors usually travel to these tournaments this early with the team. Whitman just posted a pic on his twitter of him in the plane leaving for DC? Wonder if he'll be on the west coast with the bball team all day or making deals. 
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ray:mattcoldagelli
- The Transfer Portal
You spelled "I've given up and accepted mediocrity" wrong.
I'm leaning that way myself. IF you replace Groce, you better have a "Holy (expletive omitted)" hire locked up. Otherwise, you're stuck in rebuilding mode again for an indefinite number of years.
Illinifan1951
- Southeastern Illinois
Agree with this option. Lou Henson didn't have a great record in his first 5 years but he did very well after that.
If we got the number one draft pick for tanking, you might be onto something. The definition of insanity is doing something over and over again and expecting a different result. What has Groce done to warrant him keeping his job?
Is it his number of 20 point losses which nearly double Self, Weber, and Kruger combined? Is it his inability to not beat Wisconsin a single time in his career here? Is it his ability to not finish higher than 7th a single time in the conference? Is it his 37-53 (.411) conference record? Is it his closing ability in must win games against inferior opponents (Rutgers, Penn State, etc.)? Is it his ability to adapt as Lucas didn't start until game 20 this year?
All of these recruits will come if Walker stays on staff. Recall that Tilmon said verbatim that he would not have come here had it not been for Jamal Walker, not John Groce. Those other guys will come no matter who is coaching here.
Not possible, Jim Croce was killed in a Louisiana plane crash in his prime at age 30 on 9/20/1973, may he RIP.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Croce
mattcoldagelli
- The Transfer Portal
This is so warped. The thing that leaves you "stuck" is staying the course with the guy who has proven he cannot get it done.
Seriously. Groce has lowered expectations for this program so much it might somehow help him.
ILLINI IN NE
- Omaha,Ne.
You forgot Robert Smith and Reggie Theus.
Cheez
- Sun Prairie WI
Times are changing, my friend. I mean, our president eats his steak with ketchup. Surely, hot dogs are next.
mattcoldagelli
- The Transfer Portal
You have exceptionally weird and narrow criteria for being wowed.
the national
- the Front Range
I agree with you. Im sick of the yo-yo of changing out coaches for more mediocre coaches. Whitman Better get our guy this time, or just wait. I trust him to make the right call. If he sticks with Groce, I will trust he made the right call. (That said, Whitman is savvy. i don't think Groce will not be our coach next year. Whitman's got it figured out).
How do you know you can't get a better coach if you don't try?
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