Why? MD said otherwise. It's only money in the end & Delaney has a pretty high stake in the ground with the first 1/2 of media rights, 2nd half still tbd.
Big Ten Media Rights / Conference Realignment
Why? MD said otherwise. It's only money in the end & Delaney has a pretty high stake in the ground with the first 1/2 of media rights, 2nd half still tbd.
Joel Goodson
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Think it's all poker. OU may very well be looking, but I highly doubt the BIG takes them as a standalone.
Going further, having KU as a partner doesn't do it, IMO. And UT, of course, isn't anywhere close to capitulating.
Maryland hadn't granted their media rights to the conference.
I should say, Oklahoma is free to go play wherever they want. I'm not sure there's even an exit fee. But the rights to broadcast their games belong to the Big XII until 2025, therefore they are an economically valueless entity until then.
All those grants of rights, all the big TV contracts, and the CFP structure and TV contract all expire in that 2023-25 range. That's when this is carousel is going to start spinning again.
In the meantime, expect the Big XII to kiss and make up (temporarily) and choose whichever two Group of Five teams give them the best chance of survival once the whole thing kicks off again.
You are probably right, 2025 makes the most sense for OK as long as there opportunity doesn't close. But an article suggesting GOR is beatable.
http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/outkick-the-coverage/myth-of-the-big-12s-grant-of-rights-010313
Then an article by Frank the Tank on why OK doesn't likely want to try.
https://frankthetank.me/2013/08/08/summertime-conference-realignment-walking-dead-a-look-at-the-big-12-grant-of-rights-agreement/
They definitely started out as a package deal, but I heard one rumor that they would have went alone or were at least willing to try to go alone if it would have made the difference. Not sure how much of that is true.
Those articles, and there are more of them, seem to confuse the issue, for me. They treat the grant of rights contract like it's an obligation for a team to remain in a conference. But that's not what it is, it's more like a sale of goods. In exchange for the ability to enter into the TV rights deal, the schools are granting the TV rights themselves. There's no need for termination or liquidated damages provisions, because there is no "performance" contemplated, it's just a transfer of goods.
It's not that much different from saying the conference should be able to tear up the TV rights deal in the middle and sell to another bidder. The other bidder would never spend good money on an arrangement like that because they don't have good title to the thing they're buying.
BZuppke
- Plainfield
I seem to recall the Oklahoma legislature made them a package deal. If that is the case, then the schools would not have the freedom to act separately. Just my recall which is frequently faulty!
Joel Goodson
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NC & NC State are a package deal too. Bet the so-called package deals fall apart when the music stops.
Maybe, maybe not. OSU (Kansas State in the same boat) and those legislators loyal to it have a life-or-death imperative to see that their school doesn't get left out in the cold. A lot of those state legislators will likely be alums of those schools.
Oklahoma State, Kansas State. Iowa State can join Missouri State, Arkansas State, Texas State, Colorado State, New Mexico State, Idaho State and Utah State to form The State of Irrelevance Conference (aka the SIC) for all I care.
T. Boone Pickens can be commissioner.
T. Boone Pickens can be commissioner.
Joel Goodson
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Sure, legislators in states with schools in play will certainly try to hold sway. Whether or not they succeed is unknown.
Colorado State has been to fourteen bowl games and has had five 10+ win seasons since 1990. They're currently building a $220 million on-campus stadium that opens in 2017. Not sure you want to lump them in with MVC and Big Sky teams, even for joke purposes. Major conference program fanbases love to mock and ridicule the have-nots until they transform into the next TCU or Utah and start wiping the floor with them.
skamin7
- Wellington, FL
i would love to see the Nebraska/Oklahoma rivalry come to the big ten. It would add some great flavor to the west and let the state of Indiana all be in the same region. Now we just need one more to even things out. For academic reasons i would love for Vandy to leave the SEC and come our way. they have to be tired of being the kid on the team who is only there to bring up the GPA. It would do nothing for athletics but would make the acedemic folks very happy.
South Farms
- near Ogden & Rt 83
The Big12 needs 12 members and will grow fairly soon to get there . Doubtful that the UT issues get addressed in that process . Look for Colo St , BYU and Cincy to be in the discussion .
I would take Cinci, Houston, Memphis, and BYU if I was the Big XII.
A lot will depend on leverage & situation. VA politicians fought for UVA to push for VA Tech in first round of ACC additions. But Virginia disn't really have anything to lose. Florida/Georgia/South Carolina supposedly have an alliance to block FSU/GT/Clemson from SEC; if the ACC was about to fall apart politicians would likely intervene to try to change that. In the case of OK/OSU, if the big 12 is falling apart, I'm sure they will try to leverage their position for both schools, but they aren't going to let OK go down trying to save OSU.
BZuppke
- Plainfield
Nothing new here, but have to laugh how Teddy G describes Jim Phillips as "the nation's highest ranking AD":
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-espn-big-ten-20160518-column.html
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-espn-big-ten-20160518-column.html
The article in general seems pretty weak. A lot of speculation, without much content. Seems like the B1G is going out of there way to tell ESPN to pony up or they won't be part of the new deal. I'm personally still betting this is more smoke and mirrors & in the end the B1G and ESPN come to an agreement for much of the remaining 1/2 of the B1G media rights in play.
False.
Oklahoma would have gone to the PAC without Texas if they could have. They would also accept a B1G invite today, with or without Texas.
I'm pretty sure they wouldn't. The UT OU rivalry is huge, and unlike the UT A&M rival, both sides actually care about it. Multiple sources at the time said OU wasn't going anywhere without Texas.
That was then. I'd bet my next commission check OU would jump to the B1G or SEC in a nanosecond if offered. TX or no TX.
Joel Goodson
- respect my decision™
Ditto.