Hard to argue with that. The '10 Cup was the outlier, but in '13 and '15, Q rode Keith, Seabs, Hjammer and Oduya out there basically every shift. If someone wants to make the claim that another member of the core was THE guy, I'd also have a hard time saying noI'd be curious to get the take of 'Hawks fans on here to this:
Quenneville is basically a throwaway pick since he is a UFA. Definitely surprised Seattle went that routeIn what has to be a bit of surprise, Quenneville ended up being the Kraken pick from the 'Hawks. Most of the stuff I had read leading up to the expansion draft had either de Haan or Zadorov going to Seattle.
April 30-miss playoffs'Hawks 21-22 schedule announced: https://www.nhl.com/blackhawks/team/2021-22-schedule
-October 13th: Season opener at Colorado
-October 19th: Home opener vs. New York Islanders
-April 29th: Regular season finale at Buffalo
Schedules for games against Central Division foes:
-October 13th: at Colorado
-October 30th: at St. Louis
-November 5th: at Winnipeg
-November 7th: vs. Nashville
-November 12th: vs. Arizona
-November 26th: vs. St. Louis
-December 17th: vs. Nashville
-December 18th: at Dallas
-December 23rd: vs. Dallas
-December 29th: at Winnipeg
-January 1st: at Nashville
-January 4th: vs. Colorado
-January 6th: at Arizona
-January 21st: vs. Minnesota
-January 22nd: at Minnesota
-January 24th: at Colorado
-January 28th: vs. Colorado
-January 30th: at St. Louis
-February 2nd: vs. Minnesota
-February 27th: vs. St. Louis
-March 19th: at Minnesota
-March 20th: vs. Winnipeg
-April 3rd: vs. Arizona
-April 10th: vs. Dallas
-April 16th: at Nashville
-April 20th: at Arizona
April 30-miss playoffs
It seems like they are treading water the last several years. Whatever rebuild Bowman is doing doesn't feel like it's advancing at all.Well, the way last season ended certainly doesn't inspire confidence. At least the rest of the division got worse in the expansion draft.
So many variables with this team make it hard to know what it's going to be. Will Toews be back and playing at a high level? What's the D going to look like? Are we going into the season with these 3 goaltenders again? And if the roster is good enough, is JC the right coach to maximize what we have?
At the moment I don't think you'll find any national prognosticators picking the Hawks for the playoffs. Hopefully Stan can make some dramatic roster improvements before the season starts.
Having your top 2 centers out would cripple many teams. Hawks played more kids than just about anybody. Development year, no surprise.It seems like they are treading water the last several years. Whatever rebuild Bowman is doing doesn't feel like it's advancing at all.
Seth Jones reportedly set to be traded to Chicago. Once the trade is official, he'll sign a 7 year extension with an AAV of $9.5 million.
I'd be fine with the package if it did not include a second 1st round pick. Underlying stats are showing a decline but that may reflect Columbus as a team. Also, they aren't close enough to competing for a Cup to justify a swing-for-the-fence type of move like thisugh, terrible contract, not too fond of the trade either (overpay w/next year's 1st and 2nd). Bowman with a sheer desperation move.
Jones is gonna have to be great, to justify his contact and what it cost to get him. Not confident that will happen.
I'd be fine with the package if it did not include a second 1st round pick. Underlying stats are showing a decline but that may reflect Columbus as a team. Also, they aren't close enough to competing for a Cup to justify a swing-for-the-fence type of move like this
Full No Movement clause.That makes it a more palatable contract to trade
Next move should be to move Zadorov. A D-corp with De Haan, Murphy, Jones and the kids (Mitchell, Beaudin, Kalynuk) looks good. Now, time to fire Colliton!Full No Movement clause.
Apologies for my incorrect AAV info. Bad info on the internet? Who knew?
FWIW, I'm off the ledge a bit. Jones turned down $80M for 8 from CBJ. Cap is going up, eventually, right?
They'll let Z walk. No Toews, no Dach, a weak D corps: I have a very difficult time believing any coach could have done better than Colliton.Next move should be to move Zadorov. A D-corp with De Haan, Murphy, Jones and the kids (Mitchell, Beaudin, Kalynuk) looks good. Now, time to fire Colliton!
They'll let Z walk. No Toews, no Dach, a weak D corps: I have a very difficult time believing any coach could have done better than Colliton.
Let me try it this way, do you think Colliton adds any value?
I agree that last year was a lost cause for the reasons you stated, but I go back to the year before. In JC's first partial year, the glaring problems were a historically bad PK and awful goaltending once Crow went down. Stan fixed those problems for the 2019-20 season with new personnel on the PK and they got grade A goaltending all year from Crow and Lehner. Yet they were still dead last in the division. I understand they beat the Oilers in the bubble, but they were nowhere close to making the playoffs without a global pandemic. I see very little downside and potentially great upside in replacing Colliton.