That would be especially funny since the CFP isn't an NCAA event.
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TentakilRex
- Land O Insects between Quincy-Macomb-Jacksonville
JMU, Jacksonville St. bowl-bound for first time
James Madison and Jacksonville State are each headed to bowl games for the first time in their programs' histories.www.espn.com
How is JMU going to a bowl? The NCAA said they weren’t eligible. I am confused
Also looks like a 5-7 Minnesota is going to Detroit for a bowl
Turns if there wasn't enough bowl eligible 6+ win teams, they and Jacksonville State got like the 5 win teams did (without the academic score).
JJE
- Bethalto, IL
My gut says this type of decision making is just the tip of the iceberg and this kind of decision making won't be good for the likes of Illinois. While illinois will likely never sniff the playoffs, the committee was willing to exclude undefeated FSU (flawed) team.
Apples and oranges, but the BIG is talking about not having all the teams play in the conference tournament.
While it's good to be in the BIG and SEC, it wouldn't shock me if the bottom feaders in these conferences get pushed around in the near future. I'm not sure these conferences would be gutsy enough to kick a school out, but it wouldn't shock me if they did 5-10 years down the line.
Apples and oranges, but the BIG is talking about not having all the teams play in the conference tournament.
While it's good to be in the BIG and SEC, it wouldn't shock me if the bottom feaders in these conferences get pushed around in the near future. I'm not sure these conferences would be gutsy enough to kick a school out, but it wouldn't shock me if they did 5-10 years down the line.
Oh I have no conference pride…I don’t necessarily root FOR the teams that are playing B1G teams…I just root against our hated rivals and D-bag programs. (Like Michigan)
That being said, I’m super conflicted. I work in the heart of Bama country and their fans (many of my coworkers) are so freaking entitled. Talking about making major changes after 10/11 win seasons where they don’t make the playoffs.
Puke. They were all ready to haul Saban off until that miracle throw in the iron bowl. They don't deserve a team in the playoffs.
Now I have to freaking hear about this for the next month. Thank goodness for the Christmas break. I will say that I can’t wait to be the dissenting voice in their crimson echo chamber these next few weeks.
All that to say, I wish both Bama and UM could somehow lose.
Illini4Chief
- TENNESSEE
Hmmm....so FSU is just as good with One QB as another? Huh...
Except for the fact that the NFL doesn't use a committee to decide who makes the playoffs.
sacraig
- The desert
Sure, because using a committee to decide playoffs is and always was idiotic. Make rules and tiebreakers that are clear and applied uniformly, full stop.
Yup.
The moment they decided to make this little mini tournament, they needed to change their SOP on how teams get in.
The decision today is an obvious money > performance example of where college football is going.
Woot.
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The difference in variance between the selection committee arguing back and forth and best seeding based on final record is probably not that significant to be honest, specially in the case of a best of one format.
sacraig
- The desert
It really isn't, though. Next year we literally start an expanded playoff that has much more clear rules about who gets in (even if it is still inherently partially subjective due to the size of the field of teams in FBS). As long as they follow their own rules, it should be a lot more clear who gets in and why.
And how do you propose they do that? You can't decide it like they do in the NFL or even high school here in Illinois.
We will just be debating the non-automatic qualifiers instead. And it will be the same schools year after year too.
This just makes the 1 loss not conference champs in the playoff loophole more inclusive... to schools that are already borderline playoff teams most years.
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Understood, but Ole Miss is a more appropriate matchup for Liberty than U of O. The ducks should either be in the Peach Bowl against PSU or in the Cotton Bowl playing tOSU or Miznoz.
Except the Orange Bowl, all the New Year’s Six Bowl Games state “at large” for the bids, but is there still some old legacy alliances in the background in those decisions?
All that said, if Bo Nix decides not to play, it could be a long day for the ducks no matter who they play.
Disagree, it just moves the cutoff line down the number scale a few spots.
Let’s hope we never get FSU’d while having a once in a decade+ season and are right on the edge of CFP qualification…leaving it in the hands of people with subjective agendas.
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At least when there are 12 teams that get in, it’s hard to argue for any 13th ranked team that they truly deserve to be in for national championship contention. But someone somewhere somehow will complain.
Edit: looks like we already have some home-grown complaining on principle…
I hope Michigan gets absolutely embarrassed. Also, the only Big Ten team I would ever actively cheer for in the CFP is Illinois.
I understand that but the NCAA said they weren’t eligible because they haven’t been in the bowl division long enough. So if their wins didn’t make them eligible they shouldn’t be allowed in by the NCAA logic
I am happy they got in the bowl game but still confused. It is like saying you aren’t bowl eligible but on second thought there is no one else
Illini4Chief
- TENNESSEE
Indianapolis Police reported the theft of over 125 street signs in downtown Indy, prior to the kick off with Michigan.....sources say it was The Michigan fans who were the sign stealers.
Ah, I misunderstood what you were getting at. My bad.
Nah. If you're FSU, you play the game. You hope Alabama ekes by Michigan and Texas edges Washington. Then go out there and obliterate Georgia by as much as you can. You do that and then immediately after the game you declare yourself National Champion and the only team worthy of that title. You furthermore call the so-called Championship game a farce as it doesn't even include the best and only undefeated team in college football and that whoever wins is a paper tiger. And then tell the AP pollsters to vote them #1 and rightfully award them the Natty and right this colossal wrong.
If that situation were to hold (and quite frankly it's not that farfetched other than FSU blowing out Georgia), I think there's decent odds FSU gets itself a shared national championship. FSU has an opportunity here- in no way should they throw it away out of spite.
sacraig
- The desert
If we go undefeated and win the B1G, we can't get FSUed under the new system. And if we aren't in that situation, then it's not getting FSUed.
Even though I dislike everything associated with Miznoz, this is pretty funny:
We’re flying past each other due to semantics.
I’m not arguing that the term I just made up, being “FSU’d”, describes a team in FSU’s exact circumstances.
Im saying it’s being screwed out of a spot at the table due to subjective criteria.
Obviously if we go undefeated in the B1G and win the conference championship we wouldn’t be left out.
The situation I was thinking of was more us hypothetically being 11-1 at the end of the season, somehow missing the conference championship game, and being ranked 11th-ish going into the conference championship week.
There will be teams in those positions every year, and it is now very clear (to me) how those last coveted spots will be filled.
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