Bowl/Playoff Selections

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I wish the committee would have remembered that Ohio St. won the championship with the 3rd string quarterback Cardale Jones.

I think Alabama is better than FSU but FSU did everything they could possibly do to get to the playoffs so the regular season doesn't really matter for the ACC except for Clemson and Notre Dame.
If the committee is tasked with factoring in injuries, and they are, it’s hard to blame them too much for leaving out FSU. The committee left FSU out because Jordan Travis is hurt. Full stop.

The question I have is whether they would have done it to Washington or Michigan too?

Do I think FSU, with their second or third string quarterback, is good enough to win two games and a national title. No. They earned the chance to see it out though.
 
#127      
I want to see the current four best teams in the playoff (even if it has to include Michigan). I just don't think the undefeated winner of the ACC who has lost their starting quarterback for the season can project to be better than the SEC champion who just beat the (at the time) consensus #1 team in the country. I think Texas is more debatable as a top 4 than Alabama, but they beat Bama, so I think they earned their spot. I think the committee got it right. If Jordan Travis wasn't out and they'd beaten Louisville more thoroughly, I'd have no problem with FSU in the playoff as the third seed.
You want to see the 4 best teams then UGA should have been in there. Defending national champ only 1 loss in a close game. My subjective top four

Bama UGA UT UW.

scUM gets left out because they didn’t schedule anyone in their non conference. Their best wins are OSU and PSU. Iowa is not that good. Need to stop rewarding teams for scheduling 3 cupcakes
 
#128      
Committee got it right. Sucks so bad for FSU, they deserved to be in, but they were clearly not a top 4 team. Bama went in and beat UGA, the gold standard in CFB the last two years who was on a historic winning streak and dominated about everyone they played. Absolutely sucks that FSU had to take that fall back, but it is what it is and the committee made the right choice.
Might as well just have Vegas pick the four teams. If all they are looking for is the four best teams, that seems like the most objective way to do it.
 
#129      
Might as well just have Vegas pick the four teams. If all they are looking for is the four best teams, that seems like the most objective way to do it.
That's not what they did though - Georgia would be one of the four teams then - they would be favored against any of the teams in the top 4 by Vegas. They just happened to lose their last game.
 
#130      
If the committee is tasked with factoring in injuries, and they are, it’s hard to blame them too much for leaving out FSU. The committee left FSU out because Jordan Travis is hurt. Full stop.

The question I have is whether they would have done it to Washington or Michigan too?

Do I think FSU, with their second or third string quarterback, is good enough to win two games and a national title. No. They earned the chance to see it out though.
What do you think would have happened if FSU lied about the extent of the injury and said that he would be back for the bowl season? The dr.'s can't say anything about medical status and if the player's are in fact "student athlete's" why should they have to divulge their medical status to anyone?
 
#131      
You want to see the 4 best teams then UGA should have been in there. Defending national champ only 1 loss in a close game. My subjective top four

Bama UGA UT UW.

scUM gets left out because they didn’t schedule anyone in their non conference. Their best wins are OSU and PSU. Iowa is not that good. Need to stop rewarding teams for scheduling 3 cupcakes
You want to leave out a team who scheduled 3 cupcakes, played 9 conference games and whose best wins are against #7 and #10...

....but you want to leave in a team who scheduled 3 cupcakes, played 8 conference games, has a loss, and whose best wins are against #9 and #11?
 
#132      
You want to leave out a team who scheduled 3 cupcakes, played 9 conference games and whose best wins are against #7 and #10...

....but you want to leave in a team who scheduled 3 cupcakes, played 8 conference games, has a loss, and whose best wins are against #9 and #11?
Yes I give benefit of doubt to UGA for playing the SEC opponents over scUM big ten record. The point is if you add the subject nature into this narrative you can’t tell me UGA is not one of the 4 best teams in the nation and if you had to pick a team to beat any team who would u put you money on. I think UGA would get a lot of bets so would Bama
 
#133      
Many of you are fine with the choice of eliminating FSU from the top 4 due to their QB1 not playing..... what do you do when a likely 1st round pick on one of those same 4 teams opts out to prep for the draft???
 
#134      
What do you think would have happened if FSU lied about the extent of the injury and said that he would be back for the bowl season? The dr.'s can't say anything about medical status and if the player's are in fact "student athlete's" why should they have to divulge their medical status to anyone?
It’s a very interesting question. Not sure what the rules are around reporting injuries in the NCAA, but the massive amount of money bet on these games make injury disclosure a necessity. The nature of Travis’ injury made it impossible to think he might be back in 4 weeks.

I’m not a big fan of the slippery slope, but this is one case where it seems spot on. What about your best WR or DE. How much do they factor in. Not as much as a QB I am sure, but now they have to be examined.

TCU last year was a 13.5 underdog to UGA in the title game. FSU is a 14 point underdog to UGA in this years bowl game. I think based on the criteria of getting the best four in, TCU should not have been in the playoff last year for sure.
 
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Many of you are fine with the choice of eliminating FSU from the top 4 due to their QB1 not playing..... what do you do when a likely 1st round pick on one of those same 4 teams opts out to prep for the draft???
Yep. Now the committee has to decide how good they will be with their backup who hasn’t played all year. Good luck!
 
#136      
That's not what they did though - Georgia would be one of the four teams then - they would be favored against any of the teams in the top 4 by Vegas. They just happened to lose their last game.
Yep. That was my point. Either go all the way or base it on the records the teams achieved. There is no great answer I am just really bothered by the committee factoring in an injury. Makes no sense to me.
 
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Senator Scott from Florida is asking the CFP committee to turn over emails and records surrounding their selection. It will be interesting on what he gets/finds out. I am not sure if they are required to turn anything over

If it is like what Deion thinks that might be a problem.
 
#138      
Many of you are fine with the choice of eliminating FSU from the top 4 due to their QB1 not playing..... what do you do when a likely 1st round pick on one of those same 4 teams opts out to prep for the draft???

Except for the fact that it will never happen. Because they're in the playoff and still have a shot at a national title, there's less of a likelihood of something like this happening.
 
#139      


Senator Scott from Florida is asking the CFP committee to turn over emails and records surrounding their selection. It will be interesting on what he gets/finds out. I am not sure if they are required to turn anything over

If it is like what Deion thinks that might be a problem.

This is clickbait. Nothing more. Rick Scott has no power to change the decision of the CFP committee.
 
#140      
Many of you are fine with the choice of eliminating FSU from the top 4 due to their QB1 not playing..... what do you do when a likely 1st round pick on one of those same 4 teams opts out to prep for the draft???
Don't believe any starter has ever opted out of a CFP game. Could be wrong, but it is a guarantee that FSU won't have the QB1. They got it right, hate the look and message it sends, but if the goal was best 4 teams, they are correct.

Bama will run Michigan like a train. Texas will beat Washington. Bama beats longhorns in rematch. I hate everything Bama represents and who they are but it's going to happen like this.
 
#141      
Who gives a crap about any argument other than FSU proved each week to be the best team on the field. They deserved a shot to prove it again, over either TX or Bama.
 
#142      
Don't believe any starter has ever opted out of a CFP game. Could be wrong, but it is a guarantee that FSU won't have the QB1. They got it right, hate the look and message it sends, but if the goal was best 4 teams, they are correct.

Bama will run Michigan like a train. Texas will beat Washington. Bama beats longhorns in rematch. I hate everything Bama represents and who they are but it's going to happen like this.
I wouldn’t be so sure about Texas beating UDub.
 
#143      
Don't believe any starter has ever opted out of a CFP game. Could be wrong, but it is a guarantee that FSU won't have the QB1. They got it right, hate the look and message it sends, but if the goal was best 4 teams, they are correct.

Bama will run Michigan like a train. Texas will beat Washington. Bama beats longhorns in rematch. I hate everything Bama represents and who they are but it's going to happen like this.
How do you know those are the 4 best teams? Two of them lost games, while FSU still one despite QB going down.
 
#144      
What do you think would have happened if FSU lied about the extent of the injury and said that he would be back for the bowl season? The dr.'s can't say anything about medical status and if the player's are in fact "student athlete's" why should they have to divulge their medical status to anyone?
Paging Dr. Stallions
 
#145      
It’s a very interesting question. Not sure what the rules are around reporting injuries in the NCAA, but the massive amount of money bet on these games make injury disclosure a necessity. The nature of Travis’ injury made it impossible to think he might be back in 4 weeks.

I’m not a big fan of the slippery slope, but this is one case where it seems spot on. What about your best WR or DE. How much do they factor in. Not as much as a QB I am sure, but now they have to be examined.

TCU last year was a 13.5 underdog to UGA in the title game. FSU is a 14 point underdog to UGA in this years bowl game. I think based on the criteria of getting the best four in, TCU should not have been in the playoff last year for sure.
This is a huge problem with the sport right now and I fear it's only going to get worse. Gambling should not factor into what a school must or mustn't do... yet here we are.
 
#147      
I wish the committee would have remembered that Ohio St. won the championship with the 3rd string quarterback Cardale Jones.

I think Alabama is better than FSU but FSU did everything they could possibly do to get to the playoffs so the regular season doesn't really matter for the ACC except for Clemson and Notre Dame.
You pretty much sum up my thoughts. Every P5 team had a chance to go undefeated when the season started, and only 3 did it. That one of those teams would be an underdog to all the teams in question shouldn’t matter. Underdogs win all the time. I believe AL was an underdog to GA on Saturday in fact. And the whole backup QB thing doesn’t hold water as far as I’m concerned. Do you think the committee would have downgraded AL if Milroe had suffered an obvious season ending injury on the last AL drive of game? Yeah right.

Fact is there was zero chance there would be no representative from SEC. ZERO. I don’t know if committee has publicly commented on rationale for their decision because I haven’t paid attention. Haven’t paid attention because I’m sure it isn’t the whole truth. I truly believe committee was rooting for GA to win because if it didn’t they had “no choice” what to do. Had to have SEC team and couldn’t put GA in over AL. But they couldn’t put AL over TX for same reason. So only thing they could do is leave FSU out so both TX and AL could be in. That’s exactly what I told friends as we were watching the GA - AL game. They all poo-pooed it. Silly guys, never underestimate the power of money and greed.
 
#150      
Yep, like I said — half truth at best.
I'd say it's a non truth. It is "the injury" narrative. I'd be extremely surprised if these businessmen on the committee weren't saying things like, "ya know, Bama sure brings a lot of eyeballs," and, "the Tide generate lots of ad revenue," etc.
 
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