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If west Virginia holds on against Baylor I get worried a win over Ohio state isn’t enough
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Don't because it is. Our ranking, SOS, NET, wins over Q1 teams is enough. More than actually.
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good point. Got subdued by their ap ranking
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We already did. No one has a better win on their resume then ours tonight.
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However, if we lost the next 2, then doubt creeps in. Win this one, all doubt is gone.
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Truly think that was resolved tonight ,, it just has to with all the Quad 1 games (with their victories) on this years schedule this team has played to date.
I could maybe see it if Iowa or OSU wins the BTT.
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I just feel like it's too late at that point. Both of those teams lost to Michigan, Iowa got crushed by them. Both are going to be behind us and Michigan in the conference standings. I can't justify either of those teams being ahead of us in seeding.
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If we would lose the next 2 we would be 19-8. If Iowa wins their next 2 and the BTT, they are 23-7, pretty sure it would not be a maybe in the eyes of the selection committee. If OSU beats us, then wins the BTT, they'll be 22-7, and would have swept us, again most likely not a maybe. Win this one and it's pretty much clinched for us.
Hypothetically, if OSU beats Illinois in this game and Purdue beats Wisconsin tonight and Indiana then OSU would be a #5 Seed in the Big Ten Tournament.
If OSU wins the Big Ten tournament defeating Northwestern/Minnesota, Purdue, Michigan, and Iowa along the way they would finish with an overall record of 23-7 (17-7 = 71% in Big Ten games). OSU would also improve to 10-5 in Quad 1 games.
If Illinois loses to OSU and then loses the first game in the BTT to Wisconsin/Indiana then Illinois would finish with an overall record of 19-8 (15-6 = 71% in Big Ten games). Illinois would finish 8-7 in Quad 1 games.
Looking at those 2 potential final resumes it seems pretty clear that OSU could finish ahead of Illinois if they win out and Illinois loses out... HOWEVER if Illinois wins this game the conversation dies.
If Illinois beats OSU and then loses the first game in the BTT to Wisconsin/Indiana then Illinois would finish with an overall record of 20-7 (16-5 = 76% in Big Ten games). Illinois would finish 9-6 in Quad 1 games.
Even if OSU wins the Big Ten tournament defeating Northwestern/Minnesota, Purdue, Michigan, and Iowa along the way they would finish with an overall record of 22-8 (16-8 = 67% in Big Ten games). OSU would also improve to 9-6 in Quad 1 games.
Illinois would have split the series with OSU and have the same Q1 record but have a stronger B10 slate which probably is enough to tip the scales in favor of the Illini.
TLDR: This game matters for killing OSU's hopes of taking the #1 seed from Illinois.
If OSU wins the Big Ten tournament defeating Northwestern/Minnesota, Purdue, Michigan, and Iowa along the way they would finish with an overall record of 23-7 (17-7 = 71% in Big Ten games). OSU would also improve to 10-5 in Quad 1 games.
If Illinois loses to OSU and then loses the first game in the BTT to Wisconsin/Indiana then Illinois would finish with an overall record of 19-8 (15-6 = 71% in Big Ten games). Illinois would finish 8-7 in Quad 1 games.
Looking at those 2 potential final resumes it seems pretty clear that OSU could finish ahead of Illinois if they win out and Illinois loses out... HOWEVER if Illinois wins this game the conversation dies.
If Illinois beats OSU and then loses the first game in the BTT to Wisconsin/Indiana then Illinois would finish with an overall record of 20-7 (16-5 = 76% in Big Ten games). Illinois would finish 9-6 in Quad 1 games.
Even if OSU wins the Big Ten tournament defeating Northwestern/Minnesota, Purdue, Michigan, and Iowa along the way they would finish with an overall record of 22-8 (16-8 = 67% in Big Ten games). OSU would also improve to 9-6 in Quad 1 games.
Illinois would have split the series with OSU and have the same Q1 record but have a stronger B10 slate which probably is enough to tip the scales in favor of the Illini.
TLDR: This game matters for killing OSU's hopes of taking the #1 seed from Illinois.
I think we're by far the front runner for a 1 seed. I've been saying 2 more wins and we lock it up. We got the first (and hardest). We grab one more Saturday and there's absolutely no question. If we run the BTT we might be looking at the #2 overall seed.
I think there’s good reason to think Illinois may already have surpassed Baylor. Baylor may have returned to preseason form but Illinois is clearly clicking on a whole different level than we were when we faced them earlier this season... winning the BTT would pretty much guarantee a top 2 overall position. (ESP if we also beat OSU and finish with the most wins in the Big Ten conference)
Beat OSU Sat. We have a one seed. Then let mich lose twice to MSU. Boom goes the dynamite. I wonder what happened to the great announcer from Ball St?
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Normally I'd agree but an 8/9 B10 team is likely a 4-5 in another conference.
Huh? Missouri isn't a Big Ten team and these are teams in the 29-36 range of the final S curve, regardless of conference affiliation. They should all be teams of roughly the same caliber.
Actually not true. We don’t have to beat the teams that are beat prior to playing us. That said and though I’d prefer not having to play Baylor until potentially the finals, not too concerned with overall seedings and potential opponents.
So since we're pretty much locked into that 2 seed for the BTT...who would you guys want to see as a potential 7/10 seed? Some options...
-Pop Indiana's bubble
-Pop MSU's bubble
-Revenge on Rutgers
-Revenge on Maryland
Also would love to see Iowa on the other side of the bracket and we meet them in the championship game. Hopefully giving Ayo is NPOY moment.
-Pop Indiana's bubble
-Pop MSU's bubble
-Revenge on Rutgers
-Revenge on Maryland
Also would love to see Iowa on the other side of the bracket and we meet them in the championship game. Hopefully giving Ayo is NPOY moment.
Baylor won’t be the 3 when they lose one of their remaining 2 and don’t win their tournament
Our win last night is why I wanted Baylor to lose.
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