Illini in Italy
- Illini HQ, Florida Panhandle
What is up with all the confusion on locations? Don’t they teach geometry in school anymore?
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Lunardi, Palm, etc. Has anyone gone back to look at their final predictions over the past few years vs. the actual bracket/matchups/locations to see how accurate they end up?
frozenrope9190
- Aurora, IL
Vermont just punched a ticket and are projected to be a 13 seed. Illinois might be playing them, and that would be a tough matchup.
Joe Lunardi's 2021 NCAA tournament bracket winners and losers
Bracketologist Joe Lunardi breaks down which teams made out better than expected and which were unpleasantly surprised by the NCAA tournament selection committee's decisions.
Best I could do in a very basic research but it looks like just last year, numerous examples from where he saw teams should be seeded vs. where they ended up.
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Likely any one of these 6 teams if we end up as a 4.
We've been the favorite in like 90% of our games this season, so it probably feels like we crumble under the weight of being favorites when we lose but in fact we win the vast majority of games we're favored. We've just had so many more opportunities to lose games we're favored in than to win games we're underdogs in. The only one I can think of where we were clear underdogs was @ Purdue, and we definitely did not rise to the challenge that day.
Geometry yes. Geography? So so.
Chattanooga. Yikes. Flashbacks to my time in Champaign.
Agree about true road games, but neutral site games haven't had the same success.
That was posted on selection sunday. He always changes his brackets the day of selection because he gets inside information. Lets see where he puts us tomorrow. lolJoe Lunardi's 2021 NCAA tournament bracket winners and losers
Bracketologist Joe Lunardi breaks down which teams made out better than expected and which were unpleasantly surprised by the NCAA tournament selection committee's decisions.www.espn.com
Best I could do in a very basic research but it looks like just last year, numerous examples from where he saw teams should be seeded vs. where they ended up.
I just called the SEC tip line
Whether we get Indy/Milwaukee is going to be entirely about how the committee treats Tennessee and Arkansas. Kentucky, Purdue, and Wisconsin are already locks for 3 of the 4 top seeds in those two pods. By all right, Tennessee should be placed as the 4th top seed in that pod. However, if the committee were to drop either us or Arkansas to a 5 seed, there would be more of an incentive to move Tennessee to Pittsburgh and then move us and Arkansas to Milwaukee where we'd play against each other in the same pod, instead of moving both us and Arkansas to Buffalo/Pittsburgh.
Overall, out of the 8 pod locations, 5 locations will be completely locked prior to our seeding due to higher seeds getting that placement (Portland, San Diego, Greenville, Ft. Worth, and 1 of Indy or Milwaukee). That means that we will be placed in one of the following three seed locations: Buffalo, Pittsburgh, or Indy/Milwaukee.
Now one quirk of the bracket seeds this year is that if Tennessee were placed in Indy/Milwaukee, that would mean that three 4 seeds would be placed in Buffalo/Pittsburgh, so 6 of the 8 4 and 5 seeds would be forced to play out East (UCLA and St. Mary's are the other 2 4/5 seeds and they're locked out West). So it would make sense for the bracket committee to "screw" Tennessee and send them to Pitt simply so they can open up Midwest as a location to place two 4/5 seeds such that Buffalo/Pittsburgh will only hold 4 of the 8 4/5 seeds. This would thereby allow two of Arkansas, Illinois, Houston, LSU, USC, or Iowa to not travel as far.
Overall, out of the 8 pod locations, 5 locations will be completely locked prior to our seeding due to higher seeds getting that placement (Portland, San Diego, Greenville, Ft. Worth, and 1 of Indy or Milwaukee). That means that we will be placed in one of the following three seed locations: Buffalo, Pittsburgh, or Indy/Milwaukee.
Now one quirk of the bracket seeds this year is that if Tennessee were placed in Indy/Milwaukee, that would mean that three 4 seeds would be placed in Buffalo/Pittsburgh, so 6 of the 8 4 and 5 seeds would be forced to play out East (UCLA and St. Mary's are the other 2 4/5 seeds and they're locked out West). So it would make sense for the bracket committee to "screw" Tennessee and send them to Pitt simply so they can open up Midwest as a location to place two 4/5 seeds such that Buffalo/Pittsburgh will only hold 4 of the 8 4/5 seeds. This would thereby allow two of Arkansas, Illinois, Houston, LSU, USC, or Iowa to not travel as far.
The SEC? I thought it was the ACC.
I think that at worst our loss yesterday affects where we play, but not how we're seeded. Even if we had won this I'm not sure it would have been enough to raise our seed, and after looking at Sagarin and Pomeroy I'm not convinced that the loss will drop our seed. Although the NCAA has their own methodology they aren't that different from the analytics of Sagarin and Pomeroy. Although losing wasn't the result we wanted you shouldn't look at Indiana like they're chopped liver. Their Sagarin rating is 29th, and Pomeroy has them 40th. And the way things are looking right now they may take down Iowa too.
So Texas AM wins over Auburn and Arkansas get them in? I hope so and take Scums spot.
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I would say yes
Iowa climbing seed lines. What an escape today.
sdfidaho
- Boise, Idaho
Lunardi says no
We will prepare, and we will fricking dominate Vermont ... if that is how it turns out.
Lol I get anything can happen in the tourney and being cocky is foolish, but when their 6’8” center looks at our roster and sees 7’0” 285lb there will be an audibly loud *gulp* noise to be heard
I thought that was before today's win.
Iowa will not move above the 5 line.
Enjoy your breakdowns - just confused on why Tennessee would be more likely to want to go to Milwaukee instead of Pittsburgh or Greenville. And for Arkansas, they look much closer to Fort Worth. I can't imagine Arkansas or Tennessee sending many fans to Milwaukee. But I also am not sure of all the seeding rules for where teams can go.
If you had to guess, where do you think Illinois will be sent? thanks again for the breakdowns. Can't wait for 5 tomorrow
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