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pruman91

Paducah, Ky
I'm sure the metrics on that Maryland home loss will improve when Maryland beats Illinois at home next month.
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Here's what T-Rank is projecting for the bracket based on end of year projected ELO and resume:

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This effectively assumes Illinois ends the year 14-6 in the B1G, staying about the same as they are now metrically. Solidly in the field, borderline 3/4 seed, chance to improve if they can pick up some good resume building wins. Seems about right.
 
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Here's what T-Rank is projecting for the bracket based on end of year projected ELO and resume:

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This effectively assumes Illinois ends the year 14-6 in the B1G, staying about the same as they are now metrically. Solidly in the field, borderline 3/4 seed, chance to improve if they can pick up some good resume building wins. Seems about right.
The Alabama metrics baffle me.
 
#29      
The metrics describe what has been done, and try to project what will be based on that past performance. While the AP poll is certainly full of basketball know-nothings, the coach's poll has us at 11, and I like to think most of them know something about college basketball. Again, opinions, I understand.
Again, the bracket matrix hasn't been updated from the weekend yet. You're arguing a point that doesn't exist.
 
#30      

adogster

Scottsdale, AZ
Here's what T-Rank is projecting for the bracket based on end of year projected ELO and resume:

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This effectively assumes Illinois ends the year 14-6 in the B1G, staying about the same as they are now metrically. Solidly in the field, borderline 3/4 seed, chance to improve if they can pick up some good resume building wins. Seems about right.
Just win at Wisconsin and we’re all set!
 
#31      
The Alabama metrics baffle me.
Until last Saturday, they effectively hadn't played a single bad game. Close losses to good teams, blowout wins against bad teams, with a couple extra blowouts against decent teams for good measure (win @ Mississippi St, vs Indiana St). Similar metrics to Auburn with similar profile issues.

Of course, they play each other this week, so someone has to come out looking better.
 
#34      
The Alabama metrics baffle me.
Same here. I had to look at their schedule to help me to understand how they are so highly rated with 6 loses. It appears that their complete annihilation of much inferior opponents has inflated their offensive efficiency.
 
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I hope they stay above the 4/5 line. Hate the 4/5 line.

Agreed. Don't see a huge difference between getting a 1 vs 2 seed, as far as advantage for getting to the second weekend.

But 2 vs 3 seems like a bigger difference. Would much rather play against a 7/10 seed in the 2nd round.

And the difference between a 3 vs 4 is the biggest difference. Feels like the 4 seed is where the chance of a first round upset gets significantly higher, then if you survive that you have to play a toss up game against a 5 seed.
 
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Agreed. Don't see a huge difference between getting a 1 vs 2 seed, as far as advantage for getting to the second weekend.

But 2 vs 3 seems like a bigger difference. Would much rather play against a 7/10 seed in the 2nd round.

And the difference between a 3 vs 4 is the biggest difference. Feels like the 4 seed is where the chance of a first round upset gets significantly higher, then if you survive that you have to play a toss up game against a 5 seed.
Those 12 and 13 seeds used to be the cream of the mid major world with lot of older teams that tend to be battle tested and that's why do many upsets can happen there.

I think mid majors have gotten much better exposure now and can clearly be seeded higher.... But always be afraid of an old team full of Dawgs... Unless you got some old hungry Dawgs yourself!
 
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Agreed. Don't see a huge difference between getting a 1 vs 2 seed, as far as advantage for getting to the second weekend.

But 2 vs 3 seems like a bigger difference. Would much rather play against a 7/10 seed in the 2nd round.

And the difference between a 3 vs 4 is the biggest difference. Feels like the 4 seed is where the chance of a first round upset gets significantly higher, then if you survive that you have to play a toss up game against a 5 seed.


Having said all that, here's a cool website that contradicts what I just said about 3 vs 4 seeds. And it's made by a UI professor!
 
#41      

IlliniMike_Aurora

Straight outta Champaign
We should all know these metrics - especially in January - are only fun to look at.

I just hope we are looking at a GAME for the 2nd weekend of the tourney, it has been a lifetime, especially, literally, for any 19 year olds (IANANYO)

Whether or not we get matched vs an "underseeded" uh, houston or loyola, I feel this years team has more of a common goal

Only two more months....
 
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All we can do is keep winning games. With Terrence back there’s only 3 games that will be dicey on paper.. MSU, Wisco, Purdue. We are pretty clearly the 2nd or 3rd best team in the conference. MSU imo will finish 4th, but there’s a clear drop off from the top 4 & 5~11… just win.
 
#45      
All we can do is keep winning games. With Terrence back there’s only 3 games that will be dicey on paper.. MSU, Wisco, Purdue. We are pretty clearly the 2nd or 3rd best team in the conference. MSU imo will finish 4th, but there’s a clear drop off from the top 4 & 5~11… just win.
Top 2-3. This team hasn’t reached it’s ceiling yet imo.
 
#46      
You’re underestimating how terrible the Maryland loss is even without TSJ. Also doesn’t help that FAU isn’t doing anything impressive lately. I think they’re seeded where they should be.
Maryland looks like they are starting to play better now and just took MSU down to the wire. I'd bet on them getting some more wins and that loss not looking quite as bad though still a home loss to them is bad.
 
#47      
Maryland looks like they are starting to play better now and just took MSU down to the wire. I'd bet on them getting some more wins and that loss not looking quite as bad though still a home loss to them is bad.
Only way to get the stink off from that loss is to beat them at their place which should be a quad 2 game. (Currently 98 in NET) If you’re right, maybe they get into the top 75 by then. 🤷‍♂️
 
#48      

band camp

STL City
Only way to get the stink off from that loss is to beat them at their place which should be a quad 2 game. (Currently 98 in NET) If you’re right, maybe they get into the top 75 by then. 🤷‍♂️
I agree. Go there and deliver a beat down. Cleanse the palate.
 
#49      

foby

Bonnaroo Land
So we are probably in a number of losses = seed scenario over the last 12 games.

1 loss = #1 seed, 2 losses = #2 seed, 3 losses = #3 seed............ and I hope that will be the lowest we get.
 
#50      
I get the NET rankings but I still scratch my head over Houston. Lose back to back games. Best wins are over Texas Tech and BYU, one of which was at home and never move from a 1.
And how about AZ? Their last 4 games are at Washington St. (Loss), USC (awful team) at home (W), UCLA (worse than USC) at home (W) and a loss at Oregon State (guess State schools play them tough) and yet they remain a solid #2.
 
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