Chicago Bears 2017-2018

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Illiniaaron

Geneseo, IL
Well the Bears are well on their way to getting blown out by the Eagles. All three phases of the game are sucking today. Along with Illinois, this is another season that can't end soon enough.
 
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Can't get much worse 1st half than that one for the Bears. Though it's to be somewhat expected given who they are playing. Here's to hoping we see something, anything from the team in the 2nd half.
 
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homesickalien

Springfield
Fox has to go right? There's hardly been any improvement and there are too many games where the team doesn't show up or they battle and can't seem to close. It's becoming a pattern.

Problem is I'd love to keep Fangio and throwing another offense at Trubisky might slow him down, but I don't see how Fox is around another year unless they close the year out strong.

I like Pace, but he's on the hook too.
 
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If there is a bright spot in all of this, they do have a chance for a win next week when they host the 49ers.

No. Need to go Bulls style full on tank mode. Anything better than 3-13 is more negative than positive. Goal should be semicompetitive losses with obvious growth from Trubisky.
 
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No. Need to go Bulls style full on tank mode. Anything better than 3-13 is more negative than positive. Goal should be semicompetitive losses with obvious growth from Trubisky.

With the way this season has gone, the Bears aren't going to get a top 3 pick (that'll likely be Cleveland, San Fran, and the New York Giants). They still have a chance at a top 10 pick at this point.

It's amazing how different Bears fans are seeing things now. Just last month some of us were looking at them possibly being 7-9 given what they were gonna have in the last half of their season and looking like a much improved team. Now we have people saying they should tank. Looking at what the Bears have left on the schedule, they'll probably finish 5-11 at worst and may steal another win in a game against Cincy (depending on where Cincy is at in the AFC playoff race in a couple weeks).
 
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I like Fangio, but if you want the best head coach you can get, you have to allow him to make his own assistant hires.
 
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Illiniaaron

Geneseo, IL
I'm not a Fox fan, I didn't like the hire from the start, I feel he cost the Bears three games his first season here with bonehead in-game decisions and clock management. But to me it is amazing how much heat he is getting in comparison to Pace. This is still not a good roster and he's been here three years. He is the one who decided to go with Cutler for two years and not bring in a qb until this season. He has been TERRIBLE in the free agent market. His first draft was almost a complete turd. That's really the only draft we can make definitive comments on right now, other than he apparently loves to draft projects. To me he has not been impressive.
 
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Illiniaaron

Geneseo, IL
I like Fangio, but if you want the best head coach you can get, you have to allow him to make his own assistant hires.

There must be something about him that has kept him from getting a head coaching job so far. I'm fine with letting him go, I don't want another Trestman situation where they give a guy a chance who has been passed over numerous times. This will be a critical hire. The Bears are already right there with San Fran and Cleveland as the three most poorly run franchises in the league. Can you imagine how bad things could get if you screw up this hire, and it turns out that Trubisky isn't a starting NFL quarterback?
 
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Hiring Fangio would be more of the same old same old. Bears are performing terribly, and he is a part of that situation. Defense has been strong, but it's not like they are the '85-87 Bewrs defense.

Hiring from within from an underperforming entity is :noidea:

Agree with others, this next hire is critical. Chance to turn around an inept franchise.
 
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I'm not a Fox fan, I didn't like the hire from the start, I feel he cost the Bears three games his first season here with bonehead in-game decisions and clock management. But to me it is amazing how much heat he is getting in comparison to Pace. This is still not a good roster and he's been here three years. He is the one who decided to go with Cutler for two years and not bring in a qb until this season. He has been TERRIBLE in the free agent market. His first draft was almost a complete turd. That's really the only draft we can make definitive comments on right now, other than he apparently loves to draft projects. To me he has not been impressive.

Pace’s tenure has been a mixed bag.

Except for getting unlucky with Kevin White’s injuries, Pace’s drafts have been quite good. His biggest free agent signings, McPhee, Trevaithian and Freeman, have all had problems staying on the field. Predictably in McPhee’s case. Less so in the other two. Pace gets bonus points for acquiring Akiem Spence off the scrap heap. He gets major demerits for the Glennon signing (he could have spent $10M less and got Case Keenum) and the way he’s handled the WR position.

As always with the Bears, there are chain of command questions about who’s really running the show. Some in the Chicago media question whether Fox was a Pace hire or if Fox was an Earnie Accorsi hire. There are also questions regarding some personal decisions coming from above Pace’s head. The whole handling of Alshon Jeffrey’s contract for example.
 
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Illiniaaron

Geneseo, IL
Pace’s tenure has been a mixed bag.

Except for getting unlucky with Kevin White’s injuries, Pace’s drafts have been quite good. His biggest free agent signings, McPhee, Trevaithian and Freeman, have all had problems staying on the field. Predictably in McPhee’s case. Less so in the other two. Pace gets bonus points for acquiring Akiem Spence off the scrap heap. He gets major demerits for the Glennon signing (he could have spent $10M less and got Case Keenum) and the way he’s handled the WR position.

As always with the Bears, there are chain of command questions about who’s really running the show. Some in the Chicago media question whether Fox was a Pace hire or if Fox was an Earnie Accorsi hire. There are also questions regarding some personal decisions coming from above Pace’s head. The whole handling of Alshon Jeffrey’s contract for example.
I don't know that you can grade his last two drafts yet, other than to say that Jordan Howard was a great pick. Into season three after his first draft, I think you can make some judgments about that. I was personally against the White pick when it happened. My feeling is that if you pick a receiver that high he needs to be an all-pro caliber wideout. He had really only performed for one year of college ball, and some thought he was hurt already and stayed away from him. I thought it was too much of a risky pick. He obviously doesn't have the body to sustain the wear and tear of the NFL. And one thing people never talk about, he did not excel in practice or in games when he was healthy. After that you have Goldman who looks like an average to above average D-lineman, and Amos, who finally looked good early this year but has slumped since. Apparently Grasu cant play. The other two players drafted are no longer on the roster.
 
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Illiniaaron

Geneseo, IL
The Bears offense is a complete joke. I'd like to think this is valuable learning experience for Trubisky but he really doesn't do anything. He's very slow to make a decision and he's so risk averse he doesn't even take shots downfield when the defense is offside. He looks confused to me. Not good. Also he has two more fumbles today.
 
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The Bears offense is a complete joke. I'd like to think this is valuable learning experience for Trubisky but he really doesn't do anything. He's very slow to make a decision and he's so risk averse he doesn't even take shots downfield when the defense is offside. He looks confused to me. Not good.

Meh, let him get some experience for the next coach. Hopefully he'll be a true offensive mind who can develop him.

Trubisky is a true project. One year or so in college, in a spread offense, so it is not like he is a polished, albeit young, QB. He is a raw talent.
 
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Illiniaaron

Geneseo, IL
On Bears Postgame Live they just announced that today was the first time in team history where the Bears scored at least two touchdowns, gave up none, and lost. Also they now have a streak of 35 games in a row without scoring more than 28 points. That's almost 2 1/4 seasons folks.
 
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