Coaching Carousel (Basketball)

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OrangeBlue98

Des Moines, IA
Pains me to say it this way, but give me NW in your example. Make $3M a year in a lower-stress environment, retire at 50 and buy a beach house.
Another example of this is McDermott staying at Creighton. It’s not a bad thing to be in a place where you make good money, are comfortable, and where your expectations aren’t crazy high. Sometimes, the grass isn’t greener.
 
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Another example of this is McDermott staying at Creighton. It’s not a bad thing to be in a place where you make good money, are comfortable, and where your expectations aren’t crazy high. Sometimes, the grass isn’t greener.
100% agreed. But Nebraska?
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foby

Bonnaroo Land
Collins is near reaching legendary status at perennial stinker NU. In a few years he'll have statues and have a court named after him. It's a classic which pond do you want scenario. I'd take the legendary status if I was him.
 
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Pains me to say it this way, but give me NW in your example. Make $3M a year in a lower-stress environment, retire at 50 and buy a beach house.
He's close to 50 already. I'll bet he coaches at least another 10 years.
 
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I would think that NW being in a huge market area would have plenty of NIL $$$$ if they got their ducks in a row.....I see no reason why a coach and AD couldn't turn them into legit contenders and lure in high level talent on a regular basis.....but the admissions office might have something to say about this
The location in the market is as relevant as Georgia Tech football being in Atlanta … in other words, there are VERY few NU fans in Chicago. There are so many more Illini fans (and more fans from several other schools) that the fact U of I is not physically in Chicago is irrelevant.

I would think that alumni base could at least step it up on NIL a LITTLE bit, but it clearly doesn’t care about sports much and is notoriously spread out/not instate.
 
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Highly highly doubt we see ex-NBA players without other experience in the CBB coaching ranks in the future after Juwan, Mullin, Ewing have flamed out so spectacularly.
I think you have to be really patient and let them learn on the job with a very experienced assistant who’s essentially running the team- you essentially have them just for the recruitment pull and figure head.

Money motivation likely plays a role- ex NBA players have made 100+ Million in their career just aren’t going to be as motivated to be working 80+ hours a week to make the team better that the job really requires these days
 
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The location in the market is as relevant as Georgia Tech football being in Atlanta … in other words, there are VERY few NU fans in Chicago. There are so many more Illini fans (and more fans from several other schools) that the fact U of I is not physically in Chicago is irrelevant.

I would think that alumni base could at least step it up on NIL a LITTLE bit, but it clearly doesn’t care about sports much and is notoriously spread out/not instate.
Pat Ryan disagrees with you

Ryan or Khan could T Boone Pickens our respective programs to National title contenders every year if they really wanted to given the way NIL will work in the future
 
#38      

skyIdub

Winged Warrior
Chris Collins absolutely deserves a bag. He can flat out coach....and he proves it every year with the "least" talent with that program in the best BB conference.
Keeping a dude like Buie is a nod to that.

I hope somebody rewards him for all that work.

And the Kitties can go back to the cellar. With scUM!! :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
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texillwek

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Chris Collins absolutely deserves a bag. He can flat out coach....and he proves it every year with the "least" talent with that program in the best BB conference.
Keeping a dude like Buie is a nod to that.

I hope somebody rewards him for all that work.

And the Kitties can go back to the cellar. With scUM!! :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
Send him to Gonzaga
 
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Chris Collins absolutely deserves a bag. He can flat out coach....and he proves it every year with the "least" talent with that program in the best BB conference.
Keeping a dude like Buie is a nod to that.

I hope somebody rewards him for all that work.

And the Kitties can go back to the cellar. With scUM!! :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

He's 79-127 (.383) in the Big Ten. The 5 year stretch before last season Northwestern finished 10th, 12th, 13th, 14th, and 10th in the Big Ten.

Life after Boo is going to be pretty rough. Collins can stay at Northwestern for another 11 years for all I care.
 
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OrangeBlue98

Des Moines, IA
And that would absolutely be awful for the game. If it boils down to which schools have billionaires that care enough to buy players for their alma mater, that is a horrible way for a sport to operate.
You play by the rules as they are written, not as we want them to be. I agree with you - NIL was supposed to be for players like Caitlin Clark to ink individual endorsement deals. The system is totally bastardized now.

Like in the old days - you either play by the rules and be mediocre (i.e. The Ron Guenther Way), or you bend the rules and hope you don't get caught (i.e The Calipari Way).
 
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You play by the rules as they are written, not as we want them to be. I agree with you - NIL was supposed to be for players like Caitlin Clark to ink individual endorsement deals. The system is totally bastardized now.

Like in the old days - you either play by the rules and be mediocre (i.e. The Ron Guenther Way), or you bend the rules and hope you don't get caught (i.e The Calipari Way).
Off topic a little bit, Caitlin Clark makes so much money now with NIL, more so than the expected contract as the #1 overall pick in the WNBA later this year.
I'm sure she will kill it in endorsements though.
 
#46      

mhuml32

Cincinnati, OH
Chris Collins is doing ridiculously well at NW this season. I wonder why somebody doesn't throw a boatload of money at him to resurrect their program.

- Louisville 8-20
- Texas 18-10, 7-8
- LSU 15-13
- Miami 15-14

PS I would love to see 20-8 NW meet 22-6 Duke in NCAA. I think Duke may regret promoting Scheyer instead of bring Chris back. I also would not mind Chris leaving NW. Its really irritating having to fight to beat NW. They need to return to their historical location in the B10 basement.

The catch-22 of winning at unique programs like Northwestern (really small school, admin fairly indifferent about athletics, rigid in academics) is then people think your coaching success is unique to that school. Can Collins recruit at a high level? What is he like working with a very diverse donor base? Will your fan base buy into a guy with a pretty underwhelming coaching record even though it's explainable?
 
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mhuml32

Cincinnati, OH
Best-case scenario for Illinois:


Juwan is given another year
Woodson is given another year
Ohio State hires Diebler following strong finish
Collins gets a better opportunity elsewhere (Oklahoma State? West Virginia? ACC mid-program?)
Dee gets the NIU job
 
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