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Chuck Nuggets

Dip your nuggets in my staff source sauce.
I don't know he's always come across as super genuine every time I've heard him speak, even after bad losses it seems like he always says the right thing.

I'm sure he was paying players under the table but so was every other major school.
I've always liked him.
 
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Cal has never been anything but candid that his mission is to train professional basketball players on and off the court and the only rule he and his kids have ever broken is paying his players the money they have always deserved.

He's the successor to Jerry Tarkanian in that way. You don't have to love him, but while people were hating him they should have been listening to him.

I wouldn't bet against him at Arkansas. He's going to need to change his teambuilding strategy, but maybe less than some folks are expecting.
I have to disagree with the latter part....he's 65 and unlike say Pitino or Saban seems every bit his age. He kind of reminds me of Bob Knight in his later coaching years - still a decent coach, but without the fire that made him great.
 
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Cal has never been anything but candid that his mission is to train professional basketball players on and off the court and the only rule he and his kids have ever broken is paying his players the money they have always deserved.

He's the successor to Jerry Tarkanian in that way. You don't have to love him, but while people were hating him they should have been listening to him.

I wouldn't bet against him at Arkansas. He's going to need to change his teambuilding strategy, but maybe less than some folks are expecting.
No chance I’d bet against him. He’s won everywhere he has been, other than New Jersey.
Kids like him and he has a pile of NIL 💰. They will be very tough, very soon.
 
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ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL
I have to disagree with the latter part....he's 65 and unlike say Pitino or Saban seems every bit his age. He kind of reminds me of Bob Knight in his later coaching years - still a decent coach, but without the fire that made him great.
NIL and the transfer portal are going to make the top level of college basketball older and deeper than it was in Cal's peak period and he's going to have to adjust to that, but I think it's also undeniable that the post-Covid super senior period has been a uniquely difficult environment for elite freshmen to have a major impact in a way that is going to wash out of the system over the next couple of years.

When five star one-and-done lottery picks are the difference making players in CBB again, John Calipari is going to be a difference making coach in CBB again.
 
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When five star one-and-done lottery picks are the difference making players in CBB again, John Calipari is going to be a difference making coach in CBB again.
Key point here is if the one and dones will ever be the difference makers again to the level they were in the early-mid 2010s.
 
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redwingillini11

White and Sixth
North Aurora
Why would Donovan do all that travel time to spend 2.5 hours physically in Lexington on a Bulls game day before Cal has even officially left? That makes zero sense.
Donovan is in Lexington today
***Was***
I mean....

Flying on a PJ he probably has plenty of time to game plan.
He's going to be at the game, I'm sure that's all that really matters.
And of course Kentucky is working on this stuff before Cal's exit was official.

Not sure what to tell ya. It is what it is.
 
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ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL
I have never disliked him for all he is, lol … lovably sketchy uncle vibes.
You can totally see why players and their parents and coaches would have faith in him.

And he has done right by his guys, even guys like Enes Kanter and Shaedon Sharpe who contributed nothing on the court.

It's just a philosophy that had no interest in the amateur student athlete ideal that was already 100% fake and a justification for wage theft by the time Cal came on the scene.

Tark at UNLV didn't just defy it, he also railed against it, he's a more heroic figure in college sports imho, but the hatred of Cal has always been ridiculous.

Key point here is if the one and dones will ever be the difference makers again to the level they were in the early-mid 2010s.
It will meet halfway in between, I think.
 
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Illini4Chief

TENNESSEE
Donovan might as well take KU....gonna be let go from terrible Bulls. Good resume from college days.....BUT..could go the other way with Bruce" Tell no lie" Pearl...just the right amount of gangster.....and swag.
 
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Illini2010-11

Sugar Grove
Why would Donovan do all that travel time to spend 2.5 hours physically in Lexington on a Bulls game day before Cal has even officially left? That makes zero sense.
1) Official means absolutely nothing in this industry. Meetings almost always take place before official openings are officially announced.
2) Who cares if it is Bulls gameday or not. What he does on his personal time is completely up to him, as long as he gets back in time for his business functions in the afternoon. And if we are worried about the Bulls game plan, who cares? They will fail in execution anyway.
 
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ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL
1) Official means absolutely nothing in this industry. Meetings almost always take place before official openings are officially announced.
2) Who cares if it is Bulls gameday or not. What he does on his personal time is completely up to him, as long as he gets back in time for his business functions in the afternoon. And if we are worried about the Bulls game plan, who cares? They will fail in execution anyway.
All the strange timing and inconveniences would be perfectly explicable if there were any imaginable purpose for a two-hour in person meeting in Lexington. Which there is not.

Now, did that private jet fly down to Lexington to pick up Mitch Barnhart and bring him to Chicago to talk with Donovan? THAT would make sense.
 
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Donovan might as well take KU....gonna be let go from terrible Bulls. Good resume from college days.....BUT..could go the other way with Bruce" Tell no lie" Pearl...just the right amount of gangster.....and swag.
Bulls are underperforming and clearly haven’t played to potential with the current roster, but I wouldn’t call them terrible. They like Donovan, but obviously not the results expected by now. UK situation could offer a relatively painless transition for a new coach. The organization would be relieved.
 
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Illini2010-11

Sugar Grove
All the strange timing and inconveniences would be perfectly explicable if there were any imaginable purpose for a two-hour in person meeting in Lexington. Which there is not.

Now, did that private jet fly down to Lexington to pick up Mitch Barnhart and bring him to Chicago to talk with Donovan? THAT would make sense.
Sorry, but that makes no sense to me.
 
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ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL
Sorry, but that makes no sense to me.
Lol, so the AD traveling to meet his top target makes LESS sense to you than an NBA coach getting up at 4AM on a day he'll be working until 11PM and spend three hours of travel time for a two hour meeting he could easily have on Zoom.

InsiderBrain is incredible.

It IS possible Donovan was in Lexington today. It seems extraordinarily unlikely to me, but it's possible.

I bet you every house within 100 miles of a beach on planet earth that Billy Donovan was not on both of those listed flights.
 
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Someone made that fight today, and this afternoon Cal officially said so long to UK. You gotta believe the tea leaves are saying something, regardless of who was going where...
wha...? Did I miss a fight? Was a Pizza Hut involved?? Coach Underwood would win at a walk...
 
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IlliniwekKDR

Colorado Springs, CO
Lol, so the AD traveling to meet his top target makes LESS sense to you than an NBA coach getting up at 4AM on a day he'll be working until 11PM and spend three hours of travel time for a two hour meeting he could easily have on Zoom.

InsiderBrain is incredible.

It IS possible Donovan was in Lexington today. It seems extraordinarily unlikely to me, but it's possible.

I bet you every house within 100 miles of a beach on planet earth that Billy Donovan was not on both of those listed flights.
It'd make for a wacky comedy if flights out of Lexington got grounded, and he had to hitch a ride with a truck driver to make it back to Chicago in time for the game
 
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