At the risk of having 4 posts in a row, thus breaking a loyalty rule that is more egregious than being able to teach defense, I just want to say I agree with this post.
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Noblesville Illini
- Nappanee, IN
I'm glad that you posted this because you've provided the chicken or the egg theory, which creates the back and forth.
One could say, it doesn't matter what coach we have if the players can't defend anyone. That is option 2.
A)The coach is the problem because he's just awful.
B)The players are the problem because they lack quickness, athleticism and physicality to play a solid 40 minute game.
C)There's not enough depth on the roster to play a solid 40 minutes defensively, night in and night out.
D)All of the above.
Nobody knows who is coordinating their defense, but in looking at Houston, it's clear as day that they are tough, quick, athletic, physical and play with an attitude. They don't give an inch. My guess is our DC looks a ton better coaching their crew. On the flip side, their DC probably drops a few pegs with our unit.
i don't care what the sport is, you have to have the horses.
I take a dim view that our spend and our results should be expected to closely correlate, although the reasoning seems sound. The reality is that isn't how one team operates, let alone one team that is directly and indirectly competing with a bunch of other teams also throwing money and court-politics at 'championships'.
The best basketball coach ever to live (if judging solely by championships), just went a decade without a natty despite having basically anyone or anything he wanted for his program. Results don't just come from throwing the ingredients in a bowl. So I find the complaints on results because of what we're spending, to be unconvincing.
If Hamer is as bad as some say, and our defensive statistics must be a nightmare if even half that bad, then it's Brad's fault. It's his job to recognize bad game plans, and correct them before they're installed. If it persists, you change personnel, like any effective manager. But how he hired someone to game plan, who isn't good at game planning? That's a brad failure, if that's what's going on.
But I'm not in position to know why KJ suddenly regressed for a couple weeks, why Tomi was so sick for so long, why Ben couldn't get his shot to drop, or why the season went the way it did. I can say with certainty, however, that sometimes things just don't work out.
The real truth is that most teams never reach their ceiling. Catching that lightening in a bottle is rare and fleeting, and takes as much luck as it takes elite coaching. Not every team capable of winning a championship, does. That's life.
The best basketball coach ever to live (if judging solely by championships), just went a decade without a natty despite having basically anyone or anything he wanted for his program. Results don't just come from throwing the ingredients in a bowl. So I find the complaints on results because of what we're spending, to be unconvincing.
If Hamer is as bad as some say, and our defensive statistics must be a nightmare if even half that bad, then it's Brad's fault. It's his job to recognize bad game plans, and correct them before they're installed. If it persists, you change personnel, like any effective manager. But how he hired someone to game plan, who isn't good at game planning? That's a brad failure, if that's what's going on.
But I'm not in position to know why KJ suddenly regressed for a couple weeks, why Tomi was so sick for so long, why Ben couldn't get his shot to drop, or why the season went the way it did. I can say with certainty, however, that sometimes things just don't work out.
The real truth is that most teams never reach their ceiling. Catching that lightening in a bottle is rare and fleeting, and takes as much luck as it takes elite coaching. Not every team capable of winning a championship, does. That's life.
If that's where Hamer is he needs to stay there. Obviously running the defense is over his head. Football dc Henry turned things around 180 after the first year. Hamer has had what, 3 years and getting steadily worse. He gotta go.
The coach has to change the way he has them play if the horses don't work.
sacraig
- The desert
Wait, that's allowed?
when you average 84 ppg and get 7th in conference, there is a problem with your defense. When you have people go off on your team, including randos, every night, there is a problem with your defense. If you can't see there is a problem with our defense, your head is buried in the sand.
Someone who is really bored should look up experience among the assistants, across the nation. I'd venture in terms of P5 assistant experience, we're close to dead last. Antigua has lots of experience, but Alexander, Underwood, Hamer, and Kwa have a combined 0 years as an assistant at any other P5 school. Then when you look at the fact that 3 of our guys have never been an assistant anywhere. We have to have a bottom 10% experienced staff.
So when you see a team have a mediocre season with 2 NBA players on it, including a possible lottery pick, if you don't look at coaching, I don't know what to tell you. If Underwood thinks his staff is good enough, then I think he's nuts, but going into year 9, I'd imagine he's betting his job on it.
This is a fair take.
I am just done with whatever defense we have been attempting.
I am done with seeing almost no adjustments.
Also, it is not like Houston, or Oklahoma, or Indiana or wherever else Sampson has coached, just started playing defense.
You either have a good philosophy that translates no matter what. Think Rick Pitino and his philosophy that “tips” is the only defensive stat that matters. A philosophy that forces defenders to be conscious of always getting a hand on the ball.
Self used to say “we foul a lot. At some point the refs get tired of calling it.” Led to really hard hedges, constantly chucking cutters, etc.
Syracuse and its zone. Low key, something we should think about this next year.
Let’s entertain the notion that Hamer isn’t responsible for our coverages. If it is Brad, or any other coach on the staff, then he better delegate it to someone else.
I remember when Yaklich came on to the Michigan staff under Bielein, they took off.
We may have been too young, too soft, etc. Not sure if that is true.
What I do know is true, is that our too young, too soft, etc team was consistently put in awful schemes.
That needs to change.
I am just done with whatever defense we have been attempting.
I am done with seeing almost no adjustments.
Also, it is not like Houston, or Oklahoma, or Indiana or wherever else Sampson has coached, just started playing defense.
You either have a good philosophy that translates no matter what. Think Rick Pitino and his philosophy that “tips” is the only defensive stat that matters. A philosophy that forces defenders to be conscious of always getting a hand on the ball.
Self used to say “we foul a lot. At some point the refs get tired of calling it.” Led to really hard hedges, constantly chucking cutters, etc.
Syracuse and its zone. Low key, something we should think about this next year.
Let’s entertain the notion that Hamer isn’t responsible for our coverages. If it is Brad, or any other coach on the staff, then he better delegate it to someone else.
I remember when Yaklich came on to the Michigan staff under Bielein, they took off.
We may have been too young, too soft, etc. Not sure if that is true.
What I do know is true, is that our too young, too soft, etc team was consistently put in awful schemes.
That needs to change.
DevILLDawg
- Meredosia, Illinois
I'm as lost as you on this.
Golden still leaving Florida?
Can you imagine being a gator fan if self retires and Kansas poaches golden?
I started looking at Big Ten schools and stumbled on UCLA pretty quick.
Brendyn Taylor 2 year graduate assistant at St Johns to AC at UCLA.
Nate Georgeton graduated from Cincinnati in 2019, became video coordinator at UCLA same year, promoted to AC in '23.
Given that Kwa was only promoted to the job on a temporary basis because of the TA situation, thus means UCLA is pretty much tied with us. I'm sure if I cared to look longer I'd find other examples.
IlliniwekKDR
- Colorado Springs, CO
He is texting Eric Gordon right now to let him know
As long as golden is not setting up a photo shoot and a t1 line... Then we are all safe
I had to speed read that last couple of pages.... But, did someone say Hamer was being called derogatory names? Hammer was one I saw, another was Leggings (boy, maybe?)..... If I were Hamer and ran into the posters who called me those things, I'd probably buy them a beer and laugh my arse off about it with them. There was something else, but I've forgotten what it was while typing my 1st response. I need to refresh my cocktail and am just too darn lazy to read all this rubbish again! Carry on my wayward friends.....!!!
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