Coaching Carousel (Basketball)

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Iowa has about triple if not more $$ than Penn State does … Ben can coach for sure but he’s also got some money and he’s getting even more … Rhoades can coach too … But he’s got a mid major caliber team in the Big Ten … It’s just tough … I believe SLU had more $$ than Penn State did this year …

Altman’s staff let him down this year … No doubt about that … The roster construction was poor …
Outside of Tyler getting a gig could you see staff changes for the beloved happening this year?

This is tracking to be a successful year, but the $ allocation and lack of in game adjustments has been pretty glaring..
 
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Outside of Tyler getting a gig could you see staff changes for the beloved happening this year?

This is tracking to be a successful year, but the $ allocation and lack of in game adjustments has been pretty glaring..
We've run 3,4,5 sometimes 6 different defenses and coverages in games this year, we've gone to plenty of different actions and alignments offensively when things aren't working. The $ thing cracks me up 99% of us would have done the same thing the staff did based of last year...hindsight is always 20/20 so it's easy to say now how you would split up the NIL....also pretty sure no one on this board is donating enough money to the program to truly care how it is divided up.
 
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We've run 3,4,5 sometimes 6 different defenses and coverages in games this year, we've gone to plenty of different actions and alignments offensively when things aren't working. The $ thing cracks me up 99% of us would have done the same thing the staff did based of last year...hindsight is always 20/20 so it's easy to say now how you would split up the NIL....also pretty sure no one on this board is donating enough money to the program to truly care how it is divided up.
My $100 = Gies $100,000,000 :ROFLMAO:
 
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We've run 3,4,5 sometimes 6 different defenses and coverages in games this year, we've gone to plenty of different actions and alignments offensively when things aren't working. The $ thing cracks me up 99% of us would have done the same thing the staff did based of last year...hindsight is always 20/20 so it's easy to say now how you would split up the NIL....also pretty sure no one on this board is donating enough money to the program to truly care how it is divided up.
Will the 'lack of adjustments' argument ever die?! Watch the games without having an agenda or point to prove folks....Even in Maryland "Stop chucking 3s" we literally had our best 3p shooter (Jake) make a basket cut when Mirk posted.
 
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Will the 'lack of adjustments' argument ever die?! Watch the games without having an agenda or point to prove folks....Even in Maryland "Stop chucking 3s" we literally had our best 3p shooter (Jake) make a basket cut when Mirk posted.
We rarely actually chuck 3's....we create a lot of good looks with our actions and we are going to shoot them when we are open no matter how many we've made or missed previously. Also end of shot clock Brad would rather us shoot a 3 than drive(unless we have a guy beat or hit an open cutter) but majority of the time it is going to be a 3 because he feels like refs don't call fouls nearly as much late in the shot clock so he'd rather take his chance with a 3 and we make it or have a 40% chance to get our miss and reset to 20 seconds.
 
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We've run 3,4,5 sometimes 6 different defenses and coverages in games this year, we've gone to plenty of different actions and alignments offensively when things aren't working. The $ thing cracks me up 99% of us would have done the same thing the staff did based of last year...hindsight is always 20/20 so it's easy to say now how you would split up the NIL....also pretty sure no one on this board is donating enough money to the program to truly care how it is divided up.
How Dare You Greta GIF

I gave them a hundred bucks a couple of years ago. You're saying that it didn't matter?
 
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We've run 3,4,5 sometimes 6 different defenses and coverages in games this year, we've gone to plenty of different actions and alignments offensively when things aren't working. The $ thing cracks me up 99% of us would have done the same thing the staff did based of last year...hindsight is always 20/20 so it's easy to say now how you would split up the NIL....also pretty sure no one on this board is donating enough money to the program to truly care how it is divided up.
Fans are funny.

If you lose a game it’s almost always because the players played with low effort or the staff didn’t make adjustments.

One of MLT’s criticisms lately with the defense has been that we’ve been making too many in-game adjustments, and he feels like we need to settle in to one core defense.
 
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Nova … Fan support is incredible … They understand it’s the front porch of the University and support it … If you’re a halfway decent coach and evaluator … You’ll have success there …
Interesting, thank you! I definitely feel like Villanova is a great job, and I was thinking the other day that the near-Blue-Blood status of Villanova combined with the relatively solid history of Pitt creates SUCH a high wall for PSU Basketball to ever get over. At first glance, someone could be forgiven for thinking PSU Basketball "just needs the right guy" and that it is a similar job to Illinois Football or Georgia Basketball (i.e., the history might not be there and it LOOKS like a meh job when they're bad, but it's still the state flagship school of a talent-rich area with a big fan base, so the potential is there). But whereas Northwestern Football and Georgia Tech Basketball aren't really tough competitors instate in the grand scheme of things, PSU has to literally get people to abandon Pitt and 'Nova and support PSU in basketball like they do in football ... and that ain't happenin' anytime soon!

FWIW, Pennsylvania had a 2024 population of 13,078,751. That's bigger than Illinois, and you might think PSU is shockingly some sleeping giant. However, when you break it into these thirds...

Philadelphia CSA (PA Only) = 4,687,981
Pittsburgh CSA (PA Only) = 4,687,981
Rest of PA = 5,642,868

And that doesn't take into account the no-doubt large number of people outside of those two CSAs that still support Pitt or especially Villanova for hoops or people in border regions of the state who root for out-of-state basketball teams like Maryland or Syracuse. Add in the meh facilities, lack of tradition, terrible local fan support and a total focus on football for NIL, and I actually feel like PSU might be the hardest job in the Big Ten, haha...
 
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Gates at Mizzou has been solid...besides the blowout we gave him in December:)
It seems like they have been on an upward trajectory ever since that game. I noticed a few weeks after that how they were beating all these SEC teams and I was surprised given how terrible they looked against us. They turned out to be a solid team
 
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We rarely actually chuck 3's....we create a lot of good looks with our actions and we are going to shoot them when we are open no matter how many we've made or missed previously. Also end of shot clock Brad would rather us shoot a 3 than drive(unless we have a guy beat or hit an open cutter) but majority of the time it is going to be a 3 because he feels like refs don't call fouls nearly as much late in the shot clock so he'd rather take his chance with a 3 and we make it or have a 40% chance to get our miss and reset to 20 seconds.
I feel great about Keaton, Jake, Mirk, and Ben taking open 3s (and somewhat-less-than-open 3s at the end of a shot clock). Maybe the light shouldn't be quite so green on a bad shooting night if their legs might be tired, but I know there's plenty of small-sample-size luck to ignore, and as you say, the ORBs probably make those efficient enough.

I'm not too excited about the Ivisic's 3s though. Over our last five games, they're shooting 16%, and we only rebounded 23% of their misses. Even if we assume their season avg of ~30%, that ORB% is too low to be efficient. Maybe a few per game keeps the defense honest, but I'm not sure 30% is enough to actually do that (at that rate, if I were the defense, I'd prioritize rebounding the misses and/or covering other actions).

We've rebounded about 40% of Bos and Stoj's misses, so it would be reasonably efficient if they could make 30% of them. Bos has been close to that, but not Stoj.
 
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Like this question … I’ll give 5 for each … No particular order … With some details about each …

Over rated jobs:

Indiana … The fan support is there … But not like it was pre Cignetti days and they still expect championships …

Louisville … Kind of the same thing as Indiana … They want to win the ACC every year and win Championships … They are not Duke but they expect to be …

Alabama … Oats is doing more with less … He is the reason they have been as relevant as they have been … It just simply isn’t a top 5 SEC job and I’d argue it’s closer to 10 than 5 …

Iowa State … They get a lot of love publicly but they’re not a top 5 Big 12 job … Otz does more with less … Based on numbers I got they were like 9th or 10th this year in NIL in their own league …

Syracuse … People still somehow think this is a good job … The NIL support isn’t there … The facilities are meh … The administration is a mess … It would take the absolute perfect hire to make them relevant again …

Under rated jobs:

Nova … Fan support is incredible … They understand it’s the front porch of the University and support it … If you’re a halfway decent coach and evaluator … You’ll have success there …

Drake … It’s been the stepping stone for a ton of guys … So well supported there …

VCU … Kind of the same thing as Drake … The support is there and you are set up for success …

Miami FL … They’ve got HUGE investment … And the ACC is an easy league to finish 2nd in every year …

Bonus here … USF … They’ve got tremendous leadership and resources … And who doesn’t wanna live in South Florida ?
I’ll second Drake. Living in the area, games are always pretty fun and very affordable. And when they have a big game or a rivalry game, the Knapp Center gets loud.
 
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We've run 3,4,5 sometimes 6 different defenses and coverages in games this year, we've gone to plenty of different actions and alignments offensively when things aren't working. The $ thing cracks me up 99% of us would have done the same thing the staff did based of last year...hindsight is always 20/20 so it's easy to say now how you would split up the NIL....also pretty sure no one on this board is donating enough money to the program to truly care how it is divided up.
Correct, I am not a millionaire donor, but I'm also not a meteorologist and I can still see that it's raining outside and talk about it. Seems fair that as a long time Illini fan I can ask a question in the coaching carousel thread on if we are included.

And yes, hindsight is 20/20, but that was the whole point of the question...I'm team trust Brad, but if their stated goal is to win b10 and national championships, then asking what the strategic shift will be when they don't isn't crazy.
 
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I think he’ll stay through the tourney and work both jobs …

He’s already active in the portal …

@Indy Illini Fan, whatever happened with Mike Boynton? I think Cam Crocker has been fine, but I would have loved to have Mike on the bench this year, coaching defense and recruiting. Do you have any idea whether, if someone leaves, we might make another run at him?
Also, what’s the plan for Kevin Kruger next year? Has he been helpful this season?
 
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I've heard no rumors of movement on our staff outside of Tyler maybe getting a HC look. But then again, we usually don't hear of that until the offseason.

If Altman moves on at Oregon, would Mike Mennenga be a consdieration again?
 
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@Indy Illini Fan, whatever happened with Mike Boynton? I think Cam Crocker has been fine, but I would have loved to have Mike on the bench this year, coaching defense and recruiting. Do you have any idea whether, if someone leaves, we might make another run at him?
Also, what’s the plan for Kevin Kruger next year? Has he been helpful this season?

Mike is always an option but he’s arguably got the best AC job in the sport right now …

Kruger has been sitting second row all season …
 
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I feel great about Keaton, Jake, Mirk, and Ben taking open 3s (and somewhat-less-than-open 3s at the end of a shot clock). Maybe the light shouldn't be quite so green on a bad shooting night if their legs might be tired, but I know there's plenty of small-sample-size luck to ignore, and as you say, the ORBs probably make those efficient enough.

I'm not too excited about the Ivisic's 3s though. Over our last five games, they're shooting 16%, and we only rebounded 23% of their misses. Even if we assume their season avg of ~30%, that ORB% is too low to be efficient. Maybe a few per game keeps the defense honest, but I'm not sure 30% is enough to actually do that (at that rate, if I were the defense, I'd prioritize rebounding the misses and/or covering other actions).

We've rebounded about 40% of Bos and Stoj's misses, so it would be reasonably efficient if they could make 30% of them. Bos has been close to that, but not Stoj.
Tomislav was 36% from 3 last season and Z was 38%. Really unsure why their shots have tanked this season.
 
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Mike is always an option but he’s arguably got the best AC job in the sport right now …

Kruger has been sitting second row all season …
So sitting second row pretty much means he doesn’t contribute a whole lot? Well at least during the games?
 
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Tomislav was 36% from 3 last season and Z was 38%. Really unsure why their shots have tanked this season.

These kinds of up and down movement year to year aren't that uncommon. As an example, Ayo shot 35.2% from 3 as a freshman, down to 29.6% as a sophomore, then back up to 39% as a junior.

Sometimes I think there's no real answer and it's as simple as a season not actually being that big of a sample size.
 
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Will the 'lack of adjustments' argument ever die?! Watch the games without having an agenda or point to prove folks....Even in Maryland "Stop chucking 3s" we literally had our best 3p shooter (Jake) make a basket cut when Mirk posted.

We had people mad in here on Sunday that the "in the huddle" wasnt showing brad drawing up plays on a clipboard. :LOL:
 
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Schertz … Braeuer … Bryce Drew … Olen …

Think that’s the top half of the list …
Does this mean OU the best open job in this cycle? 🤔. (At this moment, I'll prefice)

After the major moves we've seen the last couple years only natural for a down year, I guess.
 
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