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jamarvelous31
altgeld88 said:
Take a look at the video I embedded in the previous post. It's the immortal Bob Ufer, Michigan's radio man, doing the play-by-play leading up to led to Woody destroying those yard markers. Best explanation I've ever heard of the head space these coaches inhabit, and I'd never seen that video until a minute ago:

That Time Woody Hayes Shredded Michigan Stadium’s Down Markers in 1971

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The media cheering on bad behavior by coaches isn't new... For instance, Hayes' violent tantrums dated 20+ years back by the time he punched an opposing player. It wasn't winning that made him a jerk.

Hayes is a fossil that benefitted from having a talent advantage in 99% of his games and absolute control of his free labor. Being a jerk while doing it was just who he was.
 
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altgeld88
jamarvelous31 said:
The media cheering on bad behavior by coaches isn't new... For instance, Hayes' violent tantrums dated 20+ years back by the time he punched an opposing player. It wasn't winning that made him a jerk.

Hayes is a fossil that benefitted from having a talent advantage in 99% of his games and absolute control of his free labor. Being a jerk while doing it was just who he was.
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Human nature doesn't change, only the environment that channels it does. Prominent imperfection is the hallmark of great figures, of which Hayes is indisputably one.
 
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jamarvelous31
altgeld88 said:
Human nature doesn't change, only the environment that channels it does.

Good luck being judged 55 years hence by your descendants.
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That's silly. "Don't hit people around you" was a thing in the 70s too. He was fired for it, in the 70s.

The idea that it was 'just the times' ignores that championship coaches like Devaney, Royal, McCay, Devine, & Parseghian all won without abusing reporters, refs and players. 55 years later they look just fine.
 
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spotter
altgeld88 said:
Take a look at the video I embedded in the previous post. It's the immortal Bob Ufer, Michigan's radio man, doing the play-by-play leading up to led to Woody destroying those yard markers. Best explanation I've ever heard of the head space these coaches inhabit, and I'd never seen that video until a minute ago:

That Time Woody Hayes Shredded Michigan Stadium’s Down Markers in 1971

0:45 in the video:

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Fun fact that the referee Hayes was screaming at and who signaled the unsportsmanlike conduct, was Jerry Markbreit. He went on to be the most-recognized NFL referee of the 1980s and 90s.
 
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altgeld88
altgeld88 said:
Human nature doesn't change, only the environment that channels it does. Prominent imperfection is the hallmark of great figures, of which Hayes is indisputably one.
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jamarvelous31 said:
That's silly. "Don't hit people around you" was a thing in the 70s too. He was fired for it, in the 70s.

The idea that it was 'just the times' ignores that championship coaches like Devaney, Royal, McCay, Devine, & Parseghian all won without abusing reporters, refs and players. 55 years later they look just fine.
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I don't disagree and didn't claim otherwise. But it's entirely irrelevant to my point.
 
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