No one suggesting Stevens should be taken seriously.
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No one suggesting Stevens should be taken seriously.
That's an insult to the word retrograde.
Well scratch him off our list then.
haasi
- New York
Wow, nice promotion for him. Wish him all the luck. Figure Underwood must have known this was in the works when he starting making decisions about his new staff, including decision to retain Walker. I'd guess Lamont Evans would come to us, but who knows - maybe he stays at OSU under Boynton.
You're never thrilled to see the old school elevate and assistant to replace the coach you just hired for fear of Hawkins/Petersen or Beckman/Campbell vibes....but this is pretty out of left field.
TownieMatt
CU Expat
- Chicago
Wow. To me that signals Lamont Evans to Illinois. He was BWood's no. 2 from what I've heard.
I want Evans for sure.
frozenrope9190
- Aurora, IL
For me, to answer the question about 'blue blood', I look for the few things that makes or breaks a school program, number of tournaments, number of tournament wins, and number of championships.
There are 5 schools that have over 100 tournament wins. Those are the blue bloods. Everyone else is a step behind. Those 5, along with Louisville, are also the only ones that have over 40 tournament appearances. Indiana is just a notch below with 39, and 66 wins. Way behind the top 5 in tourney wins, although anyone that have special runs before 1985 will be at a disadvantage since there were less tourney games to play.
Indiana does have the 3 championships. However, is that a product of domination of that year, or more domination of those 3 weeks in March? Dunno.
Anyway, here are all the school that have achieved at least 30 tournament wins in their history. There are 33. Illinois is on there, ranked 22. These are the best schools, in my opinion. On par with Oklahoma, Maryland, Marquette, Notre Dame, and Oklahoma State (imagine that).
You could also argue that the mystique diminishes a bit if it's done with only one coach, and that the school is not as highly thought of if that coach is no longer there. See Georgetown, UNLV, and UConn I know Duke had some success before Coach K, but I'm curious if it will fade a bit like Indiana when coach K retires. So then there's 4: Kentucky, North Carolina, UCLA, and Kansas. With Duke, Louisville, Indiana, Syracuse, and Michigan State and Villanova a notch behind.
Kentucky 57 125 50
North Carolina 48 119 45
Duke 41 108 36
UCLA 47 106 40
Kansas 46 102 44
Louisville 42 76 43
Indiana 39 66 34
Syracuse 38 65 38
Michigan State 31 64 30
Connecticut 33 59 30
Villanova 38 58 36
Arizona 34 56 32
Ohio State 30 55 30
Michigan 27 54 25
Georgetown 29 47 29
Cincinnati 31 45 30
Florida 20 44 17
Arkansas 31 43 30
Marquette 32 41 33
Maryland 27 41 26
Oklahoma 30 41 30
Illinois 30 40 31
Notre Dame 36 38 40
Oklahoma State 27 38 27
Utah 29 38 32
Wisconsin 23 38 21
North Carolina State 26 37 25
Purdue 28 37 28
Texas 33 35 36
Kansas State 29 34 33
Memphis 26 34 26
Temple 32 33 32
UNLV 20 33 19
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TownieMatt
CU Expat
- Chicago
I'm honestly surprised it hasn't been announced yet. Although I just listened to Joe Henrickson's No Shot Clock podcast and he mentioned Walker plus BWood's "OkSt guy" and that there's still one spot open on staff. Not sure if he has that info or if he's just jumping the gun.
bigchief65
- Germany
Thats if you are thinking negative. A positive persons looks at the positive that Underwood knows good coaches.
So did Beckman.
I will only worry if we take none of his OSU staff. That seemed to be the way things were trending anyway, since we'll probably have a Chicago Whisperer on the staff as well.
If it were me I would have gone Evans, Boynton, Chicago Guy, but with that off the table now, maybe this all works out just fine.
Underwood's salary at OkSt was $1 mil. It's entirely possible that our assistant coach salary pool is larger than Boynton's salary.
There's no way that OkSt is going to match our offer for Lamont. They just proved they're cheap. He's coming to UI.
There's no way that OkSt is going to match our offer for Lamont. They just proved they're cheap. He's coming to UI.
whitesxfan2012
Orange & Blue tweety bird
- Louisville, KY
I'm pretty sure the fans are about to jump out of their skin over in Stillwater, over this announcement.
https://www.orangepower.com/threads/mike-boynton-is-the-new-hc.229892/
https://www.orangepower.com/threads/mike-boynton-is-the-new-hc.229892/
Ubermensch
BOOM! Feed my ego.
Self
Kruger
Huggins
Drew
Dixon
Smart
Weber
Prohm
Beard
Good luck against those guys, Cowboys.
Kruger
Huggins
Drew
Dixon
Smart
Weber
Prohm
Beard
Good luck against those guys, Cowboys.
So you used number of tournaments - NCAA alone?
Number of tournament wins - NCAA alone?
And championships - Do you count the winner of the B1G tournament, or the regular season championship? Do you double count if that same team also wins the NCAA that year?
Great list, just need to understand it a bit. Thanks for posting.
Number of tournament wins - NCAA alone?
And championships - Do you count the winner of the B1G tournament, or the regular season championship? Do you double count if that same team also wins the NCAA that year?
Great list, just need to understand it a bit. Thanks for posting.
Sites crashing from all their excitement. Keep hitting refresh guys, I'm sure that helps :thumb:
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going by a few replies to these tweets, Boynton's hiring isn't going over very well.
[FONT="]Jeff GoodmanVerified account @GoodmanESPN 10m10 minutes ago [/FONT]
[FONT="]FYI - Eddie Fogler was hired by Oklahoma State to find Mike Boynton Jr. — who happened to be sitting in the office at Oklahoma State.[/FONT]
[FONT="]Jeff GoodmanVerified account @GoodmanESPN 18m18 minutes ago [/FONT]
[FONT="]The key commonality with both Oklahoma State and also Cal. Money. Didn’t want to invest the money to get big-name coaches.
[/FONT] Jeff GoodmanVerified account @GoodmanESPN
Oklahoma State AD Mike Holder just threw away school money to hire a search firm that found a coach that was already on staff.
[FONT="]Jeff GoodmanVerified account @GoodmanESPN 10m10 minutes ago [/FONT]
[FONT="]FYI - Eddie Fogler was hired by Oklahoma State to find Mike Boynton Jr. — who happened to be sitting in the office at Oklahoma State.[/FONT]
[FONT="]Jeff GoodmanVerified account @GoodmanESPN 18m18 minutes ago [/FONT]
[FONT="]The key commonality with both Oklahoma State and also Cal. Money. Didn’t want to invest the money to get big-name coaches.
[/FONT] Jeff GoodmanVerified account @GoodmanESPN
Oklahoma State AD Mike Holder just threw away school money to hire a search firm that found a coach that was already on staff.
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I demand that every Illini fan takes a minute today to soak in the fact that we're not "that school" anymore.
Pretty whiplash inducing since we topped the charts of "that schoolness" a mere 15 months ago.
Epsilon
M tipping over
- Pdx
Pretty cool feature on that site, though, that you can rate the posts.
frozenrope9190
- Aurora, IL
You're welcome. Sorry, I didn't define it very well. The list refers to number of NCAA tourney appearances, NCAA tourney wins, and NCAA tourney losses.
conference tourneys do not factor into the list, and I don't think it's as relevant to blue blood status since so many of them didn't have tourneys until the last 10-20 years.
Leonardite
- Terre Haute, IN
They are losing their minds. This is great.
frozenrope9190
- Aurora, IL
It's not. This is a Cubit Extension moment for them. These are people who get laughed at by OU fans 24/7/365. Have some solidarity. Fans deserve for schools to be as committed to success as they are.
But coaches do too, and that's why we have Underwood.
TownieMatt
CU Expat
- Chicago
Have to feel for Boynton in this too. You finally get your shot to be a HC and your AD is openly mocked for hiring you. Can't fill you with confidence.