He does have 3 state championships in Tennessee at East High in Memphis and on an AAU squad, but that doesn't really mean much. Whole different beast.
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He does have 3 state championships in Tennessee at East High in Memphis and on an AAU squad, but that doesn't really mean much. Whole different beast.
TownieMatt
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- Chicago
Hardaway has been an AAU and high school coach for several years (his HS team wins state every year). Say what you will about making the jump from coaching at that level to high-D1, but that isn't "Zip. Zilch. Nada." coaching experience.
He'll get players, especially because of his AAU connections, and he'll likely get kids from the area to stay. I even think he could be a passable X and Os guy. My concern would be how he adjusts to managing a high-D1 program off-the-court.
He also coaches James Wiseman who will probably stay in Memphis. I've heard Wiseman is not in the same teir talent-wise as Ayton, Thamba, Jackson Jr, etc.
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Have seen him coach in Dallas many times in AAU tournaments.
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Well that's respectable at least. I just glanced at his Wiki page, and there's nothing on there about his HS coaching resume.
Still.....stepping up to the college game is a huge move. I assume he'll be able to recruit, but that hasn't been a big problem at Memphis until just recently. Pastner was a fantastic recruiter, and a truly awful coach.
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Reggie Theus!!!!
Oh man, I'll never forget the Theus hype after Weber was fired in 2012. A couple of posters from the Scout board in particular were begging for Thomas to hire Theus. It made the Keatts hype train seem pathetic in comparison.
There seems to be lots of smoke regarding Chris Mack to Louisville. If he takes the job, considering they have no current 2018 commits, I wonder if they jump in late with Ramey and Jones. Ramey because he was formerly committed there and Jones because Xavier is currently in his final four.
BananaShampoo
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Okay, based on my limited (Wikipedia) research it made no mention of him doing any sort of coaching. So that's something at least. Still don't think it ends well, but hope it does.
TownieMatt
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- Chicago
I'm expecting a boom-then-bust tenure. He'll grab a few big recruits and get people excited, but I could easily see it going south once the novelty of having Penny on the sidelines wears off.
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There is a pretty good E:60 piece on how Penny got into coaching as a result of his friend's battle with cancer.
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Doesn't really matter, the program was lost under Smith, the attendance and the black cloud hanging over them usually is telling. Penny can only be viewed as a ++++ hire. He will recruit the area/state, he will push up tempo offense, and he will put BUTTS back in the seats.
All plus', even if he falters, one could argue the program will be far and away in a better place than it is now.
Yeah could totally see him staying there's arguments on both sides. A year or two ago Louisville is considered a top 10 job between the ACC, money, facilities, recent and historic success. But how much of that is because of cheating? Mack's alma mater is Xavier so could definitely see him staying, but his wife is from Louisville. Also, if there was a time to leave, it'd be after this season to avoid a rebuild because their roster was senior heavy. I could easily see it going either way. I've also seen Shaka tied there, but Texas would have to lower his buyout since it's massive.
I think Arizona will shoot higher than Musselmen, but may strike out considering all the uncertainty there.
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I'm starting to doubt that Arizona will make a change. There's some really shady reporting behind the Schlabach report.
It'd be on more than just that. At a program that expects final fours and national titles, he has lost to a double digit seed three straight years and has yet to make a final four. He loses all five starters off this years team and has no one signed or committed for next year. And his long-time assistant Book Richardson is facing 60 years of prison time (has an incentive to talk to reduce the sentence), so Miller could easily be implicated in the FBI probe, even if it's not due to paying Ayton.
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"UConn close to signing Dan Hurley as UConn coach, sources close to Hearst CT Media."
I don't know who Jacobs is, but Gary Parrish retweeted it so guessing it's legit.
"UConn close to signing Dan Hurley as UConn coach, sources close to Hearst CT Media."
I don't know who Jacobs is, but Gary Parrish retweeted it so guessing it's legit.
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That is a good pick up for UCONN imo
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https://www.courierpress.com/story/...ville-basketball-head-coaching-job/438254002/
Evansville Courier & Press posted this today about the candidates for the Evansville job
Evansville Courier & Press posted this today about the candidates for the Evansville job
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Strange considering Xavier is Chris Mack's alma mater.
Louisville definitely has a higher ceiling than Xavier, and basketball is life in the state of Kentucky. But ever since Xavier joined the new Big East, they've been a legit national power.
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He will put butts in seats only if he wins. That will always be the case. A name coach will only get you so far in the beginning without, regardless of sport. Lovie is a case in point. Once he starts winning the butts will return.Doesn't really matter, the program was lost under Smith, the attendance and the black cloud hanging over them usually is telling. Penny can only be viewed as a ++++ hire. He will recruit the area/state, he will push up tempo offense, and he will put BUTTS back in the seats.
All plus', even if he falters, one could argue the program will be far and away in a better place than it is now.
I think anyone of his ilk would have to think long and hard about Louisville not knowing exactly where that program ends up when all the FBI stuff is over. I wouldn't touch it unless I was a lower tier guy and the $$$ said go.
I have been doubting this more as time goes on. A lot of "experts" will be eating crow. Especially that arrogant Jay Bilas
foby
- Bonnaroo Land
Agreed. ATM Xavier > Louisville. I think the smoke is only steam.
sacraig
- The desert
I agree that the program has high expectations. However, at least on the fan side of things, I haven't seen the furor for Miller's ouster that I expected after the exit from the tournament (I live in Tucson). Given, I don't spend much time with the donor class that would actually have a voice, but Joe Q. Wildcat fan is still not fully aboard the "Fire Miller" train just yet.
I think that, if he was going to be fired after this season based on what is known now, he would have been fired already. In order for him not to coach here in 2018-2019, the FBI probe is going to have to uncover some real, unassailable dirt on him. This honestly makes the most sense, because the program may have a hard time drawing the level of replacement coaches it otherwise might on account of the uncertainty around the probe.
Now, if he flubs next season, I think there's a much better shot of him being shown the door based on performance.
I have been doubting this more as time goes on. A lot of "experts" will be eating crow. Especially that arrogant Jay Bilas
I saw an article that 247 published recently that basically laid out that the allegations put forth by Schlabach were essentially impossible based on the timing. That's not to say there isn't other shady stuff going on, of course (after all, Book Richardson is one of the people who got caught in the probe), but it seems like the Schlabach report is questionable at best.
Personally, I am just waiting for the dust to settle before I thumb my nose at anyone. Who knows, we may still get caught up in this (or literally any other school, for that matter).
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Lorenzo Romar, former head coach at St. Louis U and U of Washington, is returning as head coach at Pepperdine. He was also the head man there from 1996 to 1999. Romar was Associate Head Coach at Arizona this past season. Ken Bone, former head coach at Portland State and Washington State, will be his associate head coach.
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