Antigua's return makes sense. I'm genuinely surprised at Kentucky's interest in Coleman. He's done a very good job at Illinois, but his CV looks a little light for Kentucky.I agree it just seems weird. Assistants leave from time to time and I can get over that but 2 at the same time sort has me thrown off. I can't recall 2 assistants leaving one program for the same other program ever. It just feels odd.
Last 10 years, how many?Just perusing through the players who have banners in the rafters:
Dee Brown. Luther Head. Kendall Gill. Nick Anderson. Deon Thomas. Kenny Battle (Aurora - still Chicago area). Ken Norman. Eddie Johnson.
Thats 8/13 players who played since the 80s to get a banner.
The masked mamba would like a wordChicago is not worth the trouble We’ve never gotten the best ones anyway. If we can’t get Chicago’s best without having a guy with “connections” then move on. There is a whole world out there! Thinking we have to have Chicago in order to be successful is an outdated joke! I don’t care if they are even from Illinois as long as they can play and WANT to be here!
In the last 10 years we've only been good when Ayo Dosunmu, a Chicago player, has been our best player.Last 10 years, how many?
We can't continue to live 30+ years in the past! Players we are recruiting are 18 years old and don't care about 1989 or 2005!
Spot on. People seem to diminish Chin's and OA's contribution as coaches. There has been actual player development at Illinois, something that hasn't been the case under previous coaching staffs. Maybe that's why Kentucky wanted them so bad (other than just recruiting). At Kentucky, the philosophy seems to be sink or swim. Play well and you go to the NBA, or are maybe allowed to return for another year. Play ok/don't play, find another school.I didn’t know anything about the now reported personality conflicts (if true), but I did find it interesting during the season that when coaching acumen and X and O’s were mentioned by media it usually centered round Gentry. I wondered if that would cause conflict and sounds like at least it didn’t help matters. Plenty of people including most on here knew about the great ability and importance of OA and Chin both as coaches but more importantly as recruiters. But there are plenty that don’t seem to based on the messages that say “just hire some more recruiters and we’ll be fine,”. I mean how good could they be if they never brought in a top 30 recruit right? [eye roll]
Now I’m not saying that Illinois basketball is now doomed to backslide into the mediocrity of the Groce years. Based upon their original hires, the success level the program is at now, and what appears to be a generous AC salary pool, it is reasonable to assume that BU and JW will bring in quality new ACs. It is likely we will skip a beat (but hopefully not “beats”), and that the current roster as well as recruits can help cover up any growing pains the new staff has. Just have to hope that BU can keep the 2021 and 2022 recruits on board. I really don’t see Curbelo leaving, but I guess there is always a chance.
The bottom line is that whether or not you considered OA the top recruiter in nation, it is hard not to admit that the OA and Chin combo covered a lot of bases. OA is a top national/international recruiter who is also one of the top big-man coaches around. Chin had the Chicago connections and has developed into at least a good all-around recruiter (I think more like very good) who seemed to be a very good guard coach too. If Gentry stays, it will be tough to cover all those bases with another two coaches. I’m interested to see who BU turns to in order to help keep things on track as well as get even better in future. Nice thing is that this year he has two “internal coaches” — Trent and DMW — on board. I was firmly in the happy to see them back camp, but that has grown to ecstatic. Think those two have become even more important in maintaining the culture with the coaching losses.
I didn't realize he has a degree from UIUC in Agricultural Finance. Is that what one pursues to become a bean counter.
Good points - I'm definitely in the camp of realizing the importance of Chicago and how many of my favorite Illini through the years have come from there. So many players who have made the program what it is today. I hate the take that "let's just blow off Chicago, don't need it"In the last 10 years we've only been good when Ayo Dosunmu, a Chicago player, has been our best player.
At the tail end of the Weber era, we made the tourney in 2010-2011. That team had McCamey and BP, both from Chicago area. Also Jereme Richmond, who didn't pan out for us. We next made the tourney in Groce's first season, 2012-2013, with a team featuring BP, Nnanna Egwu and Tracy Abrams, from Chicago. Then we proceeded to miss the tourney every year until we got Ayo.
Edit: I dont know which great teams in the last 10 years we've had without Chicago players. If anything, our lack of success in recruiting Chicago in the pre-Underwood era correlates with a lack of success on the court
24-7 basketball recruiter rankings has shown OA as the top recruiter only once since 2012 (when he was at Ky in 2012). Granted, Cal has been listed more than once but this is supposed to list the main recruiter. Lots of talk that he is the best recruiter in the country but not as much evidence.My mistake. Jimmy Collins, Rob Judson and Norm Roberts all brought in considerably more top 30 recruits than Orlando Antigua's grand total of zero.
Repeating that he is the best recruiting assistant in the country doesn't make it so.
Sorry Goode...If we're filling 3 AC slots, I'd hold my nose and bring on Bergeron, if that seals the deal with Tre Mitchell.
Curbelo, Frazier, Hutch, Mitchell, Cockburn
Plummer, Grandison, DMW, Payne, Podz, Hawkins, Melendez, et al off the bench
That team could do some damage.