Coaching Carousel

#452      
Which one leaving was considered the best recruiter in the country? They did a nice job identifying talent but they signed zero top 30 recruits total in their time here. If BU and JW can't replace that (they can) then we have bigger problems.
Orlando Antigua... Also, how many top-30 recruits have we gotten since recruiting rankings started? Argument doesn't seem valid.
 
#455      
Baltimore, MD
This board ought to consider that given the sudden exodus of the entire coaching staff, the problem just might be Brad Underwood.
Does BU have a history of asst. coaches departing suddenly? I don't believe that he does. The fact he changed his whole defensive philosophy after input from his coaches says to me that he values the input of his fellow coaches and that he isn't a "my way or the highway" type. I think this is a perfect storm of OA getting a chance back at UK and bringing Chin with him as well as Gentry potentially getting an asst. coaching position at his alma mater where he is familiar with Few and spent a few years prior.
 
#457      
Am I the only one that when I hear "we have to win Chicago, or get someone with Chicago ties." my blood pressure rises? Dating back to Jimmy Collins, how many Chicago kids have we gotten? We have done very well without Chicago kids and NEARLY everyone of them expected us to turn the program over to their family control because we owed them. We don't owe anybody anything. We owe the kids that want to come to the U of I something and that is an opportunity. You either take it, or you don't.
 
#458      
Am I the only one that when I hear "we have to win Chicago, or get someone with Chicago ties." my blood pressure rises? Dating back to Jimmy Collins, how many Chicago kids have we gotten? We have done very well without Chicago kids and NEARLY everyone of them expected us to turn the program over to their family control because we owed them. We don't owe anybody anything. We owe the kids that want to come to the U of I something and that is an opportunity. You either take it, or you don't.

The highest points of our program in recent memory correlate with Chicago area recruits being highly important members of our team.
 
#462      
Does BU have a history of asst. coaches departing suddenly? I don't believe that he does. The fact he changed his whole defensive philosophy after input from his coaches says to me that he values the input of his fellow coaches and that he isn't a "my way or the highway" type. I think this is a perfect storm of OA getting a chance back at UK and bringing Chin with him as well as Gentry potentially getting an asst. coaching position at his alma mater where he is familiar with Few and spent a few years prior.
I agree. And throw in that Gentry had been with BU previously. If the problem was BU, would Gentry have worked under him again? I guess anything is possible and BU is the problem, but I highly doubt it. And unless you believe BU’s overall success is because of assistants and not him, BU ain’t going anywhere. Just a perfect (or imperfect from Illini’s perspective) storm that Illinois has to overcome.
 
#464      
This board ought to consider that given the sudden exodus of the entire coaching staff, the problem just might be Brad Underwood.
Do you believe he’s the problem?
 
#465      
At the risk of having yet another post removed, the elephant in the room in my humble opinion is that the issue may not be with Whitman or BU but is above the both of them??? Just pointing out, for discussion purposes only. The University's commitment to the athletic program has been mixed at best. The athletic program does not operate in a vacuum. Just sayin' Maybe totally off base, but maybe not. If we are going to speculate, at least this speculation ought to be on the table.
 
#466      
Worst case scenario you dump him after a year when the carousel spins again.

Yeah, it'd be a short term gig. 2 years at the most. If Kofi's coming back, adding a player of Mitchell's caliber could put us over the top. Tempting. And it's not like Underwood is going to have to sacrifice a current assistant in order to hire Mitchell's guy.
 
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#467      
Am I the only one that when I hear "we have to win Chicago, or get someone with Chicago ties." my blood pressure rises? Dating back to Jimmy Collins, how many Chicago kids have we gotten? We have done very well without Chicago kids and NEARLY everyone of them expected us to turn the program over to their family control because we owed them. We don't owe anybody anything. We owe the kids that want to come to the U of I something and that is an opportunity. You either take it, or you don't.
I don't think we have to "win" Chicago. But we certainly have to get our fair share from Chicago. A lot of great prep basketball players in Chicago, and it's geographically close, we can't just ignore it. Especially now that OA's Caribbean pipeline has relocated. And I can't think of a time we've done very well without any Chicago kids, to be honest.
 
#468      
Paducah, Ky
This board ought to consider that given the sudden exodus of the entire coaching staff, the problem just might be Brad Underwood.
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#473      
Is there anyone on this forum who, if they were not an Illini fan, not take a job at Kentucky over Illinois if the pay was somewhat equal?
Yes, in a second. The coaches and players are treated like royalty as long as they are winning.
 
#475      
And another question may be why the Kentucky coaches left. Were they creaned? Did they see the writing on the wall? I really think that we will be better off with the new coaches that Brad brings in.