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He would have to pull an Isaac Chew?
IlliniKat91
- Chicago, IL
A Chicago AAU guy doesn't get us Curbelo. I get the thinking that we need to win Chicago, and agree that we need to make a serious dent up here, but I want guys that can find athletes that fill our needs.
We've had great evaluators over the past few years, but they're not the only ones. I want assistants that can get the right pieces, not just Chicago guys.
I love my city, but damn do we have a lot of headcases up here.
Classic!!
The leverage and situation is generally pretty different. Historically, assistant coaches haven't had nearly as much, at least in basketball, and you don't give guarantees unless you have to. Assistants don't have the same accountability for W/L as the head coach, nor do they need the long term contracts for purposes of recruiting.
It's interesting to compare to college football, even though it's apples and oranges in terms of impact. Top assistants in football make way over $1mil. The way recruiting and attracting talent has become more and more of a free for all, I'm not surprised that assistants are becoming more valuable, at least the ones that are known for recruiting and identifying talent.
Not that you asked, but I would expect a ripple effect in bball if the amounts we've seen thrown around here for OA are accurate.
sacraig
- The desert
If you look at what he's done since then, he's move around a ton. It's kind of bizarre.
Ubermensch
BOOM! Feed my ego.
MustangWally
- Mayfield
BMoreIllini
- Baltimore, MD
Weber and Groce both brought in Power 5 talent and we were ranked in the top 25 in the early 2010's. The issue was never really recruiting, it was roster construction. Let's also not act like Chin and OA were the only variables that changed recently.
We also don't know that we are losing the whole staff. The dust hasn't settled yet so we can't act like this is the end of our run. If we lose Chin and OA, let's see who we "poach" from other programs before thinking we are going back to the bottom 4 of the B1G.
We also don't know that we are losing the whole staff. The dust hasn't settled yet so we can't act like this is the end of our run. If we lose Chin and OA, let's see who we "poach" from other programs before thinking we are going back to the bottom 4 of the B1G.
I suspect we’ll experience Newton’s 3rd law. Lose OA and Chin then steal two strong new assistants and move on down the road. It is odd though, we loved OA for recruiting but Calipari must need his coaching. He had a ton of 5* and stunk last year.
Cal simply needs someone else to blame if they stink again next year .
Kind of like MLB teams firing the hitting coach when they come in last or next to it.
TheFameProtector
- Champaign
I agree that we need to not just rely on Chicago and not be so over-fixated on it in general, but I also really want to have a solid fighting chance with the crop of talent coming in '23 and '24 (and beyond of course). That '23 class in particular is national championship-level talent. Would be ideal if we can capitalize on recent success and some connections to those prospects and reel a couple in.
I don't even know his first 2 laws...guess I should have paid more attention in physics class.
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I don't even know his first 2 laws...guess I should have paid more attention in physics class.
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Well said... I think almost every one of the Weber teams was ranked at some point, IIRC...
I hope your right. Thank ******** God
No matter what happens, at the end of the day, we just have to trust in Brad
skyIdub
Winged Warrior
I think we needed OA for his coaching, and the coaching led to great recruiting.
Big men go to OA because he can coach.
-> Teams win because OA can coach.
-> Most players want to join winning teams. (Thank you Trent, DMW, and Ayo.)
[The Caribbean connection is a very nice bonus.]
OA was important -- not irreplaceable, but damn important. I'm glad JW and the alumni tried hard to keep him.
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Joel Goodson
- respect my decision™
Yeah, I'm not buying it (underlying issues). Why does anyone leave? Opportunity knocks. It's not like guys are leaving for chopped liver. These are elite jobs. We're in an upper tier, but we're not at the pinnacle.
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Chicago AAU is a cesspool. I would stay away from anyone associated.
I agree completely. If BU brings in new high quality assistants, then in a few years they will be looking at good opportunities. The fact that our assistant coaches are in demand is actually a good thing. Frustrating, I understand, but quality people naturally want to look around for opportunities to advance their own personal situation. The coaching world is pretty cut throat, they need to grab the best choice when it becomes available. If you don't win, AD's won't hesitate to cut the coaches.
Would love for Chin to stay as our AAU connection and lead recruiter. Lovable guy by all accounts.
Exactly. With the $$$ tossed around for OA, other qualified P5 bball coaches with recruiting savey so noted.
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