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Hiring an Irvin in any capacity won't help Illinois with Meanstreets. Underwood needs to hire someone that won't anger other AAU teams.
That was my initial thought also. Who do you pi$$ of in the Chicago/AAU scene by hiring Irvin and not their guy. It's a no win as far as keeping the peace I guess.
 
#104      
That was my initial thought also. Who do you pi$$ of in the Chicago/AAU scene by hiring Irvin and not their guy. It's a no win as far as keeping the peace I guess.
You pretty much have to pick one side or the other. Might as well keep up the goodwill with the side you’ve already chosen.
 
#105      
Chin quote after reading that last 5 pages of Illinois coaching thread: G!! D!!! It, son of a b!!!!
 
#107      
Chin and Mike Irvin had a falling out over the Miller situation. So Chin was in a tough spot there already. I wonder if Kentucky knew about that when they hired him.

I'm reasonably sure Kentucky knows their stuff and has enough connections to figure out something that has been sort of an open secret on a free message board.
 
#108      
I get that we are collectively at a specific point in the grieving stage so this might not be a popular take for some of you but there is a reason that Kentucky hired Chin. He has a connection to a very popular AAU program in a city that is very dependent on having "relationships" with certain programs as a precursor for securing commitments. He also was effective in recruiting in areas outside of Chicago. Let's not all-the-sudden act like he was an anchor on the program.
Kentucky is Kentucky!! A kid who wants to go there doesn’t want to play in Champaign. Chins AAU strengths were not as strong as people think. Many think he was the king because he got Ayo. Let’s remember we hired him from UIC!!!
 
#111      
Was thinking the recruiting battles between Nick and Chin are gonna be really interesting, but as Assistant to the HC, Nick wouldn't be able to actively recruit players, correct? Whereas Chin can recruit players directly. Gray area perhaps?
 
#113      
I think the only place he’d leave Illinois for is a decent HC job.

His family is local. He and Brad are tight. He, IMHO,is extremely loyal to Brad, his players, Illinois, and his family.

when he was hired his dad was interviewed and made a comment about Geoff wanting a HC job someday. I remember interpreting that as in that’s about all he’d leave here for.

This. The more I learn about Alexander's background, the more stoked I get. His dad was an outstanding coach. Sounds like the apple didn't fall too far from the tree.
 
#116      
Chin and Mike Irvin had a falling out over the Miller situation. So Chin was in a tough spot there already. I wonder if Kentucky knew about that when they hired him.

Interesting.
 
#119      
OA > Huss, Frazier>>>>>>Chin, Alexander >>>Gentry. Irvin ices the cake as we are much better as a staff.
Agreed. Underwood was an AC for a ~million years. If anybody understands what the job entails, it's him. Really happy with the outcome, especially considering the double body blows. Guessing that having a list of legit staff candidates is SOP for him. And I flipping LOVE the power move to trump Chin! That's some big boy stuff there, 4D chess.
 
#121      
You'll never make everyone in the Chicago/AAU scene happy regardless of who you hire. There is not 'one guy' that would make the whole city happy.
...and if somehow there was a single person (or even a single coaching staff) that could somehow "make all of Chicago happy" - whatever that means - it would only last until the first time a tough decision had to be made in terms of prioritizing a very limited number of scholarship offers, starting spots, playing time, post-season ticket allocations, etc.

We don't need to conquer all of Chicago - we only need to lock down whatever we have the room for...
 
#123      
Chin and Mike Irvin had a falling out over the Miller situation. So Chin was in a tough spot there already. I wonder if Kentucky knew about that when they hired him.
Remembering back to Kentucky supporter "Big Tim", and saying our coaching staff "should stop lying to players" is somewhat comical now, as it seems the lying/riff was with Chin and maybe not BU. Kinda ironic don't ya think?
 
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Remembering back to Kentucky supporter "Big Tim", and saying the coaching staff "should stop lying to players" is somewhat comical now, as it seems the lying/riff was with Chin and maybe not BU. Kinda ironic don't ya think?
Somebody should tell him. He loves talking to Illinois fans.
 
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