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the national

the Front Range
Brian, if at first you don’t succeed, try, try again…and again…and again. You’ll get there - Keep trying. Don’t listen to what those other people are saying. Hang in there. Don’t give up and stay the course.

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ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL
Repetition and perfection. It may have expanded but his offense is really only like 5 plays + some option routes and they rep the bubble gum out of them until every single person is on the exact same page and execute without having to think.
You'd have never thought this way 10 years ago, but there's really a lot of commonality between Leach and Paul Johnson in being iconoclasts that play a very pure, defiantly simple style of football that challenges defenses in a unique way and is built to react and counter to however a defense tries to stop it within its own framework.

Another note, Leach has never had an offensive coordinator or quarterback coach. Those roles are him and him alone. He's been very influential and has a long coaching tree now, some of whom with even greater success than him (Lincoln Riley) but none of whom have been as committed to the purity of the doctrine as he is. He maxes out the strengths and happily accepts the weaknesses of playing that way.

Air Raid principles have become part of the bedrock of football at all levels now, and yet Leach feels like the last of a dying breed in his full-spectrum adherence to the concept.
 
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Leach got into trouble at Texas Tech over medical treatment of possible concussion of Craig James son.


Illinois was too politically correct to hire somebody with that hanging over them. Of course then we had medical scandal with Beckman so go figure.

I agree- Leach wins wherever he goes. His teams are very entertaining and he is very colorful. Would have been better hire than Beckman or Lovie.
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ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL
I think the big ten is a hard conference to air raid in when the elements play a big role in the second half of the season.
Pullman, WA is no warmer than Champaign and if anything has more wind and precipitation. Also, notwithstanding its Pac 12 status, it's further from Los Angeles than Champaign is from Tampa, it's really really distant from its talent pool.

Leach proved at Wazzu that it's not just a fair weather system, and is proving at MSU that it's not just for the defense-optional conferences. Those things are problems at the margin - not a coincidence Texas Tech was still his most successful period - but those aren't fatal challenges by any means.

He'd have succeeded here, I have no doubt of it. Maybe at a slightly lower level, maybe he never finds his Gardner Minshew here, and he definitely would have gotten himself fired in some bizarre incident or other eventually, but we'd have caused defenses fits and made a bunch of bowls.
 
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I think the big ten is a hard conference to air raid in when the elements play a big role in the second half of the season.
Mike White always said defenses were at more of a disadvantage in inclement weather - the offensive players know where they are going and you are more likely to slip when you are reacting rather than initiating movement
 
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Pullman, WA is no warmer than Champaign and if anything has more wind and precipitation. Also, notwithstanding its Pac 12 status, it's further from Los Angeles than Champaign is from Tampa, it's really really distant from its talent pool.

Leach proved at Wazzu that it's not just a fair weather system, and is proving at MSU that it's not just for the defense-optional conferences. Those things are problems at the margin - not a coincidence Texas Tech was still his most successful period - but those aren't fatal challenges by any means.

He'd have succeeded here, I have no doubt of it. Maybe at a slightly lower level, maybe he never finds his Gardner Minshew here, and he definitely would have gotten himself fired in some bizarre incident or other eventually, but we'd have caused defenses fits and made a bunch of bowls.
Leach speaks his mind, especially after he's had a few years to settle into the job. And eventually he rubs the wrong people the wrong way and things go south from there. But he leaves it better than he found it.
 
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The Galloping Ghost

Washington, DC
Droopy Johnson? Feels like BS.
Uh, yeah, if that wasn't enough of a giveaway, the guy has 367 followers, joined Twitter this year, and tweeted on Oct. 18th, "Hearing Scott Frost has been fired by Nebraska. Wow."

Why post random tweets without at least taking a second to see if they're even somewhat legit? This is impressively egregious.
 
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Hmm. Should I sit out the Mike Leach love fest that broke out here. As a Seattle Illini fan with a tiny bit of exposure to the Huskies and Cougs .. Leach teams lost the last five Apple Cups he coached. His act eventually gets stale. He eventually says something too far and forces the issue and has to get fired.

He coached at Texas Tech while Bobby Knight was there. He has credited Knight with teaching him how to interact with the media. In interviews it’s uncanny sometimes how much he sounds like Knight did. Same whiny blame-the-media tone, same us vs the world, me vs you approach.

If you like all that there’s no doubt he can win games sometimes. But never enough to make up for what a negative jerk he is. If he is YOUR negative jerk then I suppose it’s all good.

He is a good fit in deep red fanbases in rural schools and an AD that doesn’t mind cleaning up his verbal messes. Is that Illinois?
 
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DeonThomas

South Carolina
If Wisconsin continues to nosedive this season (short term), or if 67 year old Ferenz of Iowa ever decides to retire (longer term), I would think they would at least consider offering the HC job to Coach B. He left Wisconsin with a great record and a solid support base, and played for and coached at Iowa. Wisconsin would not let any ill feelings they hold about Coach B's sudden departure deter them from trying to lure him back to restore the luster to their program, and you always have warm feelings about the team you played for and that gave you your start in coaching (Iowa). I trust our AD is doing everything possible to ensure a long and happy stay for Coach B at Illinois. After several decades, we finally have a great man and outstanding coach leading our football program.
I can't recall if anyone on here has already listed the Big10 head coaches who were poached by other Big10 programs. (John Pont is a really old one, but I'm not certain of the circumstances surrounding his Indiana departure.) Beyond that, I'm not aware of it happening off the top of my head.

Isn't it an unwritten rule to "keep your hands off our own guys"?
 
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