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The Auburn job can't be that desirable anymore. No one wants to be the guy who has to out Saban-Saban.
 
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BZuppke

Plainfield
Was on another message board and saw that the first name this guy mentioned for “best guesses” for next Cincinnati head coach was Bret Bielema.

Just about dropped my phone and would have done a spit take if I had a drink in my mouth.

Guy also mentioned Jeff Brohm and Pat Narduzzi and Scott Satterfield. Why would any of those coaches be a “best guess” for Cincinnati. Absolutely preposterous.
Shows how you really can’t listen to these talking heads. No one would leave a Big Ten school for the Big 12. Everything is flowing in the other direction. The very reason Fickell left Cincy for Wisconsin.

And all the Lance Leopold talk. Ended up being nonsense.
 
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Shows how you really can’t listen to these talking heads. No one would leave a Big Ten school for the Big 12. Everything is flowing in the other direction. The very reason Fickell left Cincy for Wisconsin.

And all the Lance Leopold talk. Ended up being nonsense.
Kansas ended up going 3-6 in conference, which probably ended any possibility of that happening. Doesn't mean it was nonsense at the time. If Kansas ends up finishing with a winning record in conference play, after their hot start to the season, maybe things go differently.
 
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altgeld88

Arlington, Virginia
IMO Fickell's a solid hire for Wisconsin. Have liked him since he was an assistant at OSU. He'll likely restore them to annual contention soon. While I'm not happy about that, I'll live with it and look forward to regularly competitive Illinois-Wisconsin matchups. That could develop into a consistent rivalry game.
 
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I have no real hate for Nebraska or Wisconsin, but I think Fickle was quite wise to take Wisconsin over Nebraska. I just dont believe the urban players are salivating about playing football at little house on the prairie. Rhule may well succeed, time will tell.
 
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Big 10 will be monster in couple years. I could see B10 getting 3-4 spots every year just like the SEC (12 available)

Traditional:
Ohio State 11-1
Michigan 12-0

Newbies:
Penn State (10-2 this year)
USC (11-2, under Riley probably BCS bound)
Nebraska (will rebound under Matt Ruhl)
UCLA (9-3 under Chip Kelly BCS experience )

Very tough 2nd tier
Illini (Bielema 8-4)
Wisconsin (6-6 Fickell, BCS experience at Cincinatti)
Purdue (8-4)
Iowa (7-5)
Minnesota (8-4)

Possible future adds
Washington 10-2
Oregon 9-3
 
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redwingillini11

White and Sixth
North Aurora
Big 10 will be monster in couple years. I could see B10 getting 3-4 spots every year just like the SEC (12 available)

Traditional:
Ohio State 11-1
Michigan 12-0

Newbies:
Penn State (10-2 this year)
USC (11-2, under Riley probably BCS bound)
Nebraska (will rebound under Matt Ruhl)
UCLA (9-3 under Chip Kelly BCS experience )

Very tough 2nd tier
Illini (Bielema 8-4)
Wisconsin (6-6 Fickell, BCS experience at Cincinatti)
Purdue (8-4)
Iowa (7-5)
Minnesota (8-4)

Possible future adds
Washington 10-2
Oregon 9-3
I'm going to get out in front of believing that Matt Ruhl will not "succeed" at Nebraska. He may make them a regular bowl-eligible team, but Nebraska fans I've seen believe he is capable of making them a competitor for the conference and the twelve team playoff.

Sorry your past is history. They are down in the B1G West tier with Iowa, Minnesota, below Wisconsin, and maybe alongside us and Purdue. Ruhl certainly raised the floor where he went, but show me one impressive victory he had at Baylor or Temple. There's not much there. This conference is going to be a gauntlet, especially if USC is going to be one of their permanent rivals, like we expect. Being one of the top three or even four teams is going to be a huge ask, and being ahead of all but two of OSU, Michigan, USC, Penn State, Wisconsin, and even Iowa and Michigan State just isn't likely.
 
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I'm going to get out in front of believing that Matt Ruhl will not "succeed" at Nebraska. He may make them a regular bowl-eligible team, but Nebraska fans I've seen believe he is capable of making them a competitor for the conference and the twelve team playoff.

Sorry your past is history. They are down in the B1G West tier with Iowa, Minnesota, below Wisconsin, and maybe alongside us and Purdue. Ruhl certainly raised the floor where he went, but show me one impressive victory he had at Baylor or Temple. There's not much there. This conference is going to be a gauntlet, especially if USC is going to be one of their permanent rivals, like we expect. Being one of the top three or even four teams is going to be a huge ask, and being ahead of all but two of OSU, Michigan, USC, Penn State, Wisconsin, and even Iowa and Michigan State just isn't likely.
Matt Rhule. And it’s Lunney not Luhnney
 
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jjv0004

Greenville, SC
FYI - I was on a Bama forum today and fans (not Saban) were mentioning Walters as a name to replace Golding, who every Bama fan wants fired.
 
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I'm going to get out in front of believing that Matt Ruhl will not "succeed" at Nebraska. He may make them a regular bowl-eligible team, but Nebraska fans I've seen believe he is capable of making them a competitor for the conference and the twelve team playoff.

Sorry your past is history. They are down in the B1G West tier with Iowa, Minnesota, below Wisconsin, and maybe alongside us and Purdue. Ruhl certainly raised the floor where he went, but show me one impressive victory he had at Baylor or Temple. There's not much there. This conference is going to be a gauntlet, especially if USC is going to be one of their permanent rivals, like we expect. Being one of the top three or even four teams is going to be a huge ask, and being ahead of all but two of OSU, Michigan, USC, Penn State, Wisconsin, and even Iowa and Michigan State just isn't likely.
I also believe Nebraska will be a bowl eligible team soon, but not an upper crust team. I just dont believe 4 star and 5 star players are going to be standing in line to come to the plains to play. What I was saying is, kids today will not be satisfied just because they have internet in Nebraska. They want to be entertained . I dont think they will find the lifestyle they are wanting in Nebraska. Sure they will get 3 star players from the urban areas like everyone else, Im talking about the truely elite players who can literally pick their poison.
 
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altgeld88

Arlington, Virginia
Gonna be real awkward when Ohio State cans Day for going 1-3 vs Michigan next year. ;)
You have no idea. I recall when they fired Earle Bruce the Monday before the Michigan game in '87. Here's his record through '86 at OSU. The locals called him "Mr. 9-3":

1979 - 11–1 (and one drive short of a national championship in the Rose Bowl.)
1980 - 9–3
1981 - 9–3
1982 - 9–3
1983 - 9–3
1984 - 9–3
1985 - 9–3
1986 - 10–3
9-3 was simply insufficient for an OSU coach. In addition, he was merely 4-4 v. Michigan, had made it to only two Rose Bowls, and in '87 had gone 5-4-1 when he was canned.

The leash in Columbus has always been really, really short.
 
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Wisconsin fired Chryst for 2-3 record

Leonhard finished 6-6 so he went 4-3.

Beating NW, Purdue, Maryland Nebraska
Losing to MSU, Iowa and Minnesota

not exactly setting the world on fire
- If he had beaten OSU or Michigan he might have gotten the job. Unfortunately they had already lost to OSU and did not play Michigan.
- if he had won the B10 west he might have gotten the job but they finished 4-5 conf vs. Purdue 6-3

I guess it shows firing Chryst was about getting head start on hiring outsider, not retaining Leonhard.

Ruhle did very well at as college coach and can claim NFL experience (resume almost mirrors Pete Carril pre USC)


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Wonder if he pissed off people in the administration? The guy was head coach in waiting there for a while, then doesn't even get a full season.
I really don't know, but my thought is that it's just a very cutthroat game. You take a job knowing that you're gonna get fired unless everything goes absolutely right, and both the schools and coaches have to make very difficult decisions to get where they want to go. It's not the same at every school, but I think that our former AD and Ford-Kinnick award winner Ron Guenther was an extreme outlier with respect to how he thought about loyalty, and we all saw how well that ended up.
 
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Espn reporting Rhule salary will be top 10 in the country and Fickell at 7.9 million/year.

That's more than double what we are paying BB, I believe. Gotta think Josh breaks out the checkbook this off-season.

TV deal for 7 years
1 billion/year divided 14 ways is 71 million/year. I'm not sure how much each school gets specifically, but have to think around 90% of it, which is what 64 million/year.

B10 may be the new conference of choice for highly paid coaches.
 
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