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One shouldn’t toot one’s own horn, especially during warm-ups before a rivalry game.
mhuml32
Gesture of Northern Aggression
(1) ughhhhhhhhhhhhh
(2) Ole Miss could be a playoff team this year. Makes a lot of sense for McDonald and his head coaching prospects. Was hoping that Illinois' offense could have taken a step forward this year, Lunney got a G5 head coaching job, and McDonald would have became the OC.
(2) Ole Miss could be a playoff team this year. Makes a lot of sense for McDonald and his head coaching prospects. Was hoping that Illinois' offense could have taken a step forward this year, Lunney got a G5 head coaching job, and McDonald would have became the OC.
I love your optimism, but we just went 5-7 in one of the worst B1G West divisions ever. Over half the teams had first year head coaches, and we had a cheat code All American DL, and we still went 5-7.
Our arrow is pointed up under BB compared to the past few decades. It's WONDERFUL to have some hope again, but we have a long, long way to go.
I don’t think Geo was ever in line to become OC if Lunney left
mhuml32
Gesture of Northern Aggression
(1) Totally agree with this take. Eight of their last 11 seasons have resulted in 7 wins or more. They have things rolling.
(2) Big picture, we're also telling on ourselves that Ole Miss is the 9th or 10th best SEC football brand and it seems comical that Illinois' long-term potential is even close to them.
mhuml32
Gesture of Northern Aggression
If true, it's an indictment on McDonald as a coach. He looked like Bielema's best hire on paper in early 2021. He was successfully recruiting and this is the best WR stretch at Illinois in 15+ years. If the answer behind the scenes is "he's not OC material", that's saying something.
McDonald is a former Illini?
I think he’s HC material for sure though.
None of us know if they accept 7-6 over there because they've never had that luxury. Campbell is their first coach with an overall winning record since the 70s. The only coaches in Iowa State history with a higher winning percentage than Campbell coached in the early 1900s.
mhuml32
Gesture of Northern Aggression
How are you going to convince Scheelhaase to give up the Iowa State OC job to become Illinois' WR coach (+ auxiliary title)? If I'm Scheelhaase's agent, I'm telling him that another good offensive year at Iowa State and he'll start getting head coaching offers (or a really good SEC/B1G OC offer).
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Surprising to hear that although I guess expectations are higher in the new big 12
Yep. Last name was McDonald-Ashford when he played… senior year was the 0-11 season I believe. Buena Park High school in Orange County, ca…. Wonder if he still has any ties here.
Much higher …
His agent is not telling him that …
How many other assistants will be going elsewhere?
None? 4? Somewhere in between? Ya never really know. Geo wasn’t expected to go anywhere but Lanes first hire fell through and here we are.
Just heard chatter that there could be a couple more. Didn’t think much of it until Mac took Ole Miss gig.
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I think that was my point, though … obviously we are in a worse spot. But if you put Nick Saban in either job, do you think he has a higher ceiling at Illinois or Ole Miss?
Because I’ll take Illinois. And I think that’s how you should judge a job.
As much as I would love it to be Illinois….it would still be Ole Miss with the higher ceiling
It’s kinda a good thing that we’re in a position that other programs want to poach our coaches, right?
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No need for mocking, I’d love to hear your opinion, and I’d respect it. But there’s more instate talent here, and they split it with MSST. They have a meh history, and so do we. They play on possibly the hardest division in football, and we play in … TBD but NOT harder than the SEC West. Whatever NIL money is there for a consistently top 15 Ole Miss program is easily matched by a top 15 Illini program… We have more alumni, richer alumni and significantly more non-alumni instate fans like me.
The only argument, IMO, that Ole Miss is a clearly better job is recent record … and I’m sorry, but that’s the logic that says Baylor is a better job than UCLA. Again, I’ll defer to actual insider information … but comparing Illinois today to Ole Miss today isn’t a argument by itself … Alabama basketball is NOT a better job than UCLA. And the pieces are there at Illinois at least as much as at Ole Miss, if you ask me.
And vandy
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