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MDchicago
- Lake Norman NC
Is that Ravonte Rice I spy in the mural in the Rev's new office at Valpo? Serendipitous that they picked a game with the Illini....
drsmitty74
- Rochester
I can't like this enough.
I would assume more schools will start to employ role like this?
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Villanova hires former Quinnipiac head coach Baker Dunleavy as basketball GM | FOX Sports
Villanova is the latest school to follow a new trend in college basketball, hiring former Quinnipiac coach Baker Dunleavy as the general manager for men's and women's basketball.
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Mr. Tibbs
- southeast DuPage
for sureI would assume more schools will start to employ role like this?
Villanova hires former Quinnipiac head coach Baker Dunleavy as basketball GM | FOX Sports
Villanova is the latest school to follow a new trend in college basketball, hiring former Quinnipiac coach Baker Dunleavy as the general manager for men's and women's basketball.
you need someone to handle the constant movement of players with the portal and NIL money issues
for better or worse, the game inside the game is 10 times more fluid and dynamic than just 3 years ago
for me, its worse. its not remotely the same anymore. its pro "light", not high school "heavy" anymore
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
Does having the same person doing that for men's and women's serve the needs of the women's team?
It looks forward thinking and progressive and inclusive to say "these are equal programs under one organizational structure". I bet you the more siloed off women's programs wind up more successful.
There are two revenue producing programs.
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
If there is going to be this much player movement, I think the first thing basketball staffs need is a much, much bigger "analyst" staff to scout tape.
Those can't just be undergrad interns, nor can you train an AI to do it or something, you need people who know what they're watching.
Being the first to know during the season that a sophomore guard in the Sun Belt is making a jump and showing the skills needed for that position in your high-major coach's system is becoming a huge, huge competitive advantage.
As BU has said it's "speed dating" right now. It will become a romance novel over time.
I just posted a link on the NIL thread. Villanova just hired a basketball General Manager.
@IlliniShelt beat you by a few hours
I agree . . . I see no path forward for school affiliation with so much money floating around, with more coming in like the atmospheric rivers in CA.
Without school affiliation, does the sport just die out as a less than premium product when compared to the NBA?
I get what you’re saying but if it was going to die out as a less than premium product to the NBA why wouldn’t it have done that already? To me, I don’t think that many people view the product differently now that kids are getting paid & it’s allowed. Will there be more roster turnover? Sure, but the fans of college basketball have school affiliation. Do I love having players I can watch grow and develop for multiple years? Yes, but more than that I’m an Illinois fan and I was during the John Groce era when I wasn’t a fan of our rosters some years.I agree . . . I see no path forward for school affiliation with so much money floating around, with more coming in like the atmospheric rivers in CA.
Without school affiliation, does the sport just die out as a less than premium product when compared to the NBA?
I will be interested to see if the transferring starts to regulate and becomes less in future years though.
It didn't die out as a less than premium product because it was "college" basketball, and had a built in audience of millions consisting of alumni, die hard fans, and casual fans, all following their team because of the illusion that the players were as loyal to their university. That fallacy has been brought out into the light and exposed, and the players shown to be mercenaries playing for the higher bidder, destroying the illusion of the common love by the fan and the players for the university.
I stated some months back that I wondered how long university presidents are going to allow AD's, coaches, and now GM's to control millions of $ outside the purview of the university. I would not be surprised at all if the colleges decided that athletics were not part of it's core mission of education anymore, and simply terminated athletics.
I share your frustration. However, there is no chance that high major schools abandon athletics for reasons not limited to the following:It didn't die out as a less than premium product because it was "college" basketball, and had a built in audience of millions consisting of alumni, die hard fans, and casual fans, all following their team because of the illusion that the players were as loyal to their university. That fallacy has been brought out into the light and exposed, and the players shown to be mercenaries playing for the higher bidder, destroying the illusion of the common love by the fan and the players for the university.
I stated some months back that I wondered how long university presidents are going to allow AD's, coaches, and now GM's to control millions of $ outside the purview of the university. I would not be surprised at all if the colleges decided that athletics were not part of it's core mission of education anymore, and simply terminated athletics.
1. Students want the “college experience” which includes college sports.
2. Alumni engagement
3. Potential net revenue to the university.
4. Publicity. Ohio State used to be open enrollment. Now it’s one of the most academically rigorous universities in the world. I believe this is at least partly due to the positive halo around the football program.
sacraig
- The desert
This is exactly the sort of reason I am a fan of NIL (if not necessarily it's implementation). There was such a double standard. Most people don't voluntarily quit their job without some ideas where they're landing the next one.
Having said that, coaches have big buyouts. If it's not happening already, I suspect we will see buyouts in NIL deals before long because it's the Wild West right now.
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2. Universities are going to get rid of college sports that generate revenue for them and for all the other reasons @State of Chicago listed in his post. From what I’ve heard schools typically sees enrollment bumps after athletic success.
1. Personally I don’t think a top/driving factor behind most die hard fans following college teams is that players had loyalty to their programs. Are you going to stop following Illini sports?It didn't die out as a less than premium product because it was "college" basketball, and had a built in audience of millions consisting of alumni, die hard fans, and casual fans, all following their team because of the illusion that the players were as loyal to their university. That fallacy has been brought out into the light and exposed, and the players shown to be mercenaries playing for the higher bidder, destroying the illusion of the common love by the fan and the players for the university.
I stated some months back that I wondered how long university presidents are going to allow AD's, coaches, and now GM's to control millions of $ outside the purview of the university. I would not be surprised at all if the colleges decided that athletics were not part of it's core mission of education anymore, and simply terminated athletics.
2. Universities are going to get rid of college sports that generate revenue for them and for all the other reasons @State of Chicago listed in his post. From what I’ve heard schools typically sees enrollment bumps after athletic success.
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