College Sports (Basketball)

#227      
wc_illini
Bucktown said:
Like many I don't understand most of this, by why do the so called 11 seeds play each other instead of playing the worst of the 12 seeds? It gives the 12 seeds an easier path to playing in the real tournament.
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I think the priority is ensuring appropriate matchups for the 5 and 6 seeds (want all the 12 seeds to be "worse" than all the 11 seeds).

The way to get the best teams all seeded correctly into the R64 would be to have the worst 24 teams (regardless of at-large or autobid) play each other (seeded so the best of these plays the worst, etc), then sort the winners and place them in the R64 as the 14-16 seeds. But that's not happening.
 
#228      
grue2
wc_illini said:
I'm not sure an 11- or 15-seed play-in game makes a region stronger. Even if the better team wins, those are theoretically among the lower half of the 11-seeds and lower half of the 15-seeds.
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I think the 11/12 games may make a significant difference.
- The 5-11 game is won by the 11 35% of the time.
- The 4-12 game is won by the 12 20% of the time.
The stronger 11/12 seed should have an even better chance of advancing. Look at how the last 4 in winners have done thus far.

The stronger 15 seed in the 2/15 game is pretty unlikely to matter. I still don't understand why they were not spread out more.
 
#229      
The Sprouting Divot
grue2 said:
I think the 11/12 games may make a significant difference.
- The 5-11 game is won by the 11 35% of the time.
- The 4-12 game is won by the 12 20% of the time.
The stronger 11/12 seed should have an even better chance of advancing. Look at how the last 4 in winners have done thus far.

The stronger 15 seed in the 2/15 game is pretty unlikely to matter. I still don't understand why they were not spread out more.
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5s play 12s and 4s play 13s.

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I hate this new paradigm and I hope that those responsible for it will die of syphilis quickly and painfully.
 
#231      
Fighter of the Nightman
fatboyslim said:
Will never like 15 and 16 seeds, who won their conference tournaments, having to play their way into the field of 64. All of the opening round games should be bubble teams truly having to win their way into the field of 64.
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Amen. The pursuit of the “better” teams at the expense of what separates March Madness unique among all postseason formats is so unspeakably stupid and short sighted.
 
#232      
doowink
Mr. Tibbs said:
he coached at Lawrenceville (on the border ) in the 1970s & won back to back class A titles
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He actually won 4 state titles...back to back in 81-82 and 82-83.....went undefeated both seasons....34-0 each season.... attended many of his camps....was a tremendous motivator, relentless competitor and cared deeply about his players....legendary...for sure
 
#233      
alaskaillini
Why not invite all the D1 teams - pick the top 64 or so. Then have the other 300 or so play 3 games to weed them down to 36 or so. Have those play the 33-64 seeds. Give the top 32 byes. then play the tourney - would add about a week and generate a whole lot more revenue.
I know the numbers don't jive exactly but you could adjust a few play in games to balance it out.
This is where it is heading - might as well just go there. Then there could be no issue about leaving anyone out.
 
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