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jamarvelous31
bavanga3 said:
Because there's no CBA.
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100% yes. The fact that they let 4th yr players select whichever plan is most favorable for them but not 5th is the least defensible thing I've seen them do.

It has to be an unspoken (if only for discovery purposes) understanding that they will lose this year (and probably next) on anything remotely unfavorable to a players' earnings.

The only thing I can think of why they did it this way is to make 6th year lawsuits less frequent.
 
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Bucktown
Calvin said:
Why does the NCAA keep thinking it can make it's rules without input from the players? I'm reading lawsuits have already been filed and personally, I don't see how you can impose college eligibility based on age. Last I heard, you could enroll at any age.

I vaguely recall that what little success the NCAA has had in court, it's the 5 years, so maybe this will fly?
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Because that is what it is for. It is an association of universities.
 
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Illwinsagain
I just don't understand how putting an age limit is enforceable. For example, if someone joins the armed forces after high school, because they couldn't afford college, or just wanted to get some structure. Then at 22 they decide to go to college and are ineligible?
 
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jamarvelous31
Illwinsagain said:
I just don't understand how putting an age limit is enforceable. For example, if someone joins the armed forces after high school, because they couldn't afford college, or just wanted to get some structure. Then at 22 they decide to go to college and are ineligible?
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They'd have 2 years (5 year clock starts at enrollment or 19th bday) but your broader point is why this isn't likely to stand up in court for anyone currently >19 looking for their 5 years..
 
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Scoregasm
jamarvelous31 said:
They'd have 2 years (5 year clock starts at enrollment or 19th bday) but your broader point is why this isn't likely to stand up in court for anyone currently >19 looking for their 5 years..
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They should just remove the 19 limit and just leave it at enrollment date.
 
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Appleknockersaluki
Illwinsagain said:
I just don't understand how putting an age limit is enforceable. For example, if someone joins the armed forces after high school, because they couldn't afford college, or just wanted to get some structure. Then at 22 they decide to go to college and are ineligible?
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Two of my brothers joined the Air Force out of high school, then played college ball after they got out--one at SIUE and the other JUCO. I think there's an exception for like Mormon missions, maybe there's another for military.

And what about incarceration? I assume Michigan State keeps an eye out for players from those institutions.
 
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RabidDawgClassic
Appleknockersaluki said:
And what about incarceration? I assume Michigan State keeps an eye out for players from those institutions.
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#59      
JKR
Appleknockersaluki said:
Two of my brothers joined the Air Force out of high school, then played college ball after they got out--one at SIUE and the other JUCO. I think there's an exception for like Mormon missions, maybe there's another for military.

And what about incarceration? I assume Michigan State keeps an eye out for players from those institutions.
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There are exceptions for religious missions, military service and pregnancy.
 
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bavanga3
I just don't understand how putting an age limit is enforceable. For example, if someone joins the armed forces after high school, because they couldn't afford college, or just wanted to get some structure. Then at 22 they decide to go to college and are ineligible?
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They have student loans and financial aid for those people. Reality is, most people can't just write a check to college, its way too expensive these days. Not being able to afford it isn't an excuse.
As far as the structure aspect, if thats what somebody values over pursuing the sport they love, its a life lesson. There's an opportunity cost to every decision we make.
 
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Emerson Bigguns
jamarvelous31 said:
They've got 6 more days
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Estrella just announced he is staying, despite getting there last week. Cadeau, McKinney, and Thiam have also reaffirmed their commitment. At this point, I'd assume they won't lose anyone who is going to greatly impact their chances of doing something special this year.
While the timing wasn't ideal, the fact that most guys are already working out together probably works in their favor to a significant extent.
 
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lstewart53x3
Emerson Bigguns said:
Estrella just announced he is staying, despite getting there last week. Cadeau, McKinney, and Thiam have also reaffirmed their commitment. At this point, I'd assume they won't lose anyone who is going to greatly impact their chances of doing something special this year.
While the timing wasn't ideal, the fact that most guys are already working out together probably works in their favor to a significant extent.
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Hear me out: this is a good thing. I want them to be good next year. Great even. It’ll force Michigan to remove the interim tag on Boynton. I’ll let them have another good year for a few bad ones.
 
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mysterio2525
lstewart53x3 said:
Hear me out: this is a good thing. I want them to be good next year. Great even. It’ll force Michigan to remove the interim tag on Boynton. I’ll let them have another good year for a few bad ones.
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we want them to extend him and then him to fail... leaving Michigan in a much worse position later. how we get there does matter. momentum is a thing.

1. ideal situation.... they get off to a hot start, he gets extended. they finish decent in the big ten (maybe top 4) but that's it. he flops from there.
2. he has a bad year, they don't extend they make a bad hire. ok maybe this is ideal but another good situation.
3. they have a good year. top 3 in big ten and make it to sweet 16 but because of an easy draw. extend. he flops from there. still pretty good
4. they have a good year make it to sweet 16/ elite 8 but he still flops. the juwan. still good.
5. he has a decent year but they don't extend and get a good coach. not ideal.
6. he is good and the bus keeps rolling. terrible.

these are the scenarios I'm seeing from best to worst
 
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