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redwingillini11
White and Sixth
- North Aurora
Would Texas really have to pay an exit fee for a conference they aren't officially a part of yet?
I get that swooping in and stealing Texas would cause an all out nuclear war that no one probably is interested in fighting now. But heck, I'd call Texas if I were Kevin Warren.
Other than Notre Dame, who might be persuaded if Texas were added, not sure who you bring in to go alongside Texas as a pair. You have to think big though.
I get that swooping in and stealing Texas would cause an all out nuclear war that no one probably is interested in fighting now. But heck, I'd call Texas if I were Kevin Warren.
Other than Notre Dame, who might be persuaded if Texas were added, not sure who you bring in to go alongside Texas as a pair. You have to think big though.
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
Oh yeah, divisions are 100% done I assumed everyone knew that.
Terrible news for us, it's really critical that we make use of what little of the B1G West we have left to gain a sliver of momentum as a program.
Terrible news for us, it's really critical that we make use of what little of the B1G West we have left to gain a sliver of momentum as a program.
Wouldn't the B1G have Texas already if that is what Texas wanted?
Texas chose the SEC for whatever reason, I guarantee if they called the B1G before joining the SEC, they would be in the B1G.
Joel Goodson
- respect my decision™
Things changed when we added LA/SoCal. Plus, perhaps UT has some buyer's remorse (better cultural fit in the BIG).
redwingillini11
White and Sixth
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That was before we said "eff it" and said we are going to be a coast-to-coast national conference with USC joining the mix and putting together an NFL-style media arrangement. Before last year, I don't expect we were really ready to expand way outside of our geographic footprint, but everything is different now. SEC went bold and opened the door, which left us no choice but to move forward and think even bolder.
I totally expect that Texas is most likely willing to follow through with joining the SEC. But we are A LOT more attractive of a destination right now than we were and I bet the B1G could make a pretty tempting offer.
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
I have no doubt that a few conversations were quietly had in that regard.
But we've finalized this deal because those conversations didn't ultimately spark anything.
Shief
- Champaign Area
This may be the YouTuber speculation getting to me but I'm wondering if the B1G is not done and may go to 20 teams soon. If we do create the 'West Wing' to help out UCLA and USC, I would pull to add Stanford, Oregon, Washington, and Notre Dame. Below are the pods that I see forming for football and I'll explain the scheduling process further below.
Pacific: USC, UCLA, Oregon, Washington, Stanford
North: Nebraska, Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Mich. State
Central: Illinois, Northwestern, Indiana, Purdue, Notre Dame
East: Michigan, Ohio State, Penn. State, Maryland, Rutgers
Each year a team would play 10 conference games. 4 would be against the other teams in their pod and 2 games against teams from each of the other pods in a 5 year home and home process. As in, Illinois might play USC (Home) and UCLA (Away) in year 1, Wash. (H) and Oregon (A) year 2, Stanford (H) and USC (A) year 3, UCLA (H) and Wash. (A) year 4, Oregon (H) and Stanford (A) year 5. This way a team will visit everyone else regularly and travel costs will hopefully be somewhat balanced in and outside the pod per team.
The two nonconference games can then be played against long-standing rivals (Iowa-Iowa St., Illinois-Missouri, Notre Dame-Navy, Army, etc.) or cupcakes.
Pacific: USC, UCLA, Oregon, Washington, Stanford
North: Nebraska, Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Mich. State
Central: Illinois, Northwestern, Indiana, Purdue, Notre Dame
East: Michigan, Ohio State, Penn. State, Maryland, Rutgers
Each year a team would play 10 conference games. 4 would be against the other teams in their pod and 2 games against teams from each of the other pods in a 5 year home and home process. As in, Illinois might play USC (Home) and UCLA (Away) in year 1, Wash. (H) and Oregon (A) year 2, Stanford (H) and USC (A) year 3, UCLA (H) and Wash. (A) year 4, Oregon (H) and Stanford (A) year 5. This way a team will visit everyone else regularly and travel costs will hopefully be somewhat balanced in and outside the pod per team.
The two nonconference games can then be played against long-standing rivals (Iowa-Iowa St., Illinois-Missouri, Notre Dame-Navy, Army, etc.) or cupcakes.
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ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
That would mean every current school has to take less money than the amount they just signed for.
There's nothing more to the analysis than that.
There seems to be this desperation for all of this to have some bigger, grander design.
We murdered the Pac 12 because Fox told us they'd pay us more money if we did. There is not one millimeter of foresight beyond that.
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Shief
- Champaign Area
Gritty, I have not read the media rights contact but I have been lead to believe that there may be clauses in it that includes increases in payment to the B1G for distribution if more teams are added, so Illinois and others might not take much or any of a hit.
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
Correct, which is just being practical in this day and age, but those increases in payments have to be BIGGER than the per-school take in order to not dilute the pot.
If that were true, those schools would already be here.
This all played out pretty publicly. They kicked the tires on adding more West Coast schools. The numbers didn't work for the networks. It was considered, rejected, and now it's over.
(Just as a sidebar, this deal is a more elegant, delicate creation than I think people appreciate. Getting three networks to play nice and grant each other exclusive windows would not have been easy. It's really Fox's slightly irrational attraction to the 11AM window that made this all happen.)
Joel Goodson
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Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
Filmed at the University of Oregon, incidentally
I for one, hope they stick at 16. The 3-6-6 schedule format works really nicely since you can play every team home and away over a 4 year period. I see no reason why Illinois would vote to add these west coast teams so that they make less money and get to play their customary rivals less.
An issue with a 10 game conference schedule in this scenario is the 5 conference road games. 7 home games a year is still important for these schools and if you have a strong non-conference game you want to play like Iowa-Iowa St. or USC-ND, you can't play these home and away anymore unless you routinely have seasons of 6 home games.
illini80
- Forgottonia
1) I don’t think the B10 would ever let themselves be forced to take another team. 2) This move means too much to UCLA to not fight an attempt to block it. Ultimately the block would fail legally and it would be a PR disaster imo.
As someone living down here the Texas to the B1G rumors give me irrational hope every time they come around.
I understand that people talk about the cultural fit academically, but football really comes first down here. UT has some programs, but as a friend of mine always says, “don’t tell me how great of a school UT is, Vince Young has a degree from UT.”
I understand that people talk about the cultural fit academically, but football really comes first down here. UT has some programs, but as a friend of mine always says, “don’t tell me how great of a school UT is, Vince Young has a degree from UT.”
UC leaders say 'all options are on the table' as they weigh fighting UCLA's Big Ten move
University of California system leaders proposed new rules that may limit campuses from making major athletics contract decisions on their own.
www.latimes.com
MoCoMdIllini
- Montgomery County, Maryland
I'm sure the university presidents would be happy to have Cal-Berkeley and Stanford. Do they still have a say in this?UC leaders say 'all options are on the table' as they weigh fighting UCLA's Big Ten move
University of California system leaders proposed new rules that may limit campuses from making major athletics contract decisions on their own.
Mr. Tibbs
- southeast DuPage
In this age, I think they can use their influence to only deny a school , not to get one in. They would most certainly want Cal or Stanford in , but I just dont see either getting in without ND, and then in that scenario, not both of them. Cal has about as much a chance of getting in as Vandy or Rice does.
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
They have a choice between the University of California System having one seat on the lifeboat or none. They aren't stupid.
But they will make UCLA sweat for it because of politics but also because they're genuinely mad that this was able to happen without them knowing about it. That shouldn't be the way it works, it's really quite shocking that Berkeley and the Regents got blindsided, and they'll surely patch that governance issue up going forward.
Joel Goodson
- respect my decision™
Another good follow. This is pretty darn funny and true (apologies for the verbage):
Joel Goodson
- respect my decision™
With ND staying independent for a few more years, I think the BIG is gonna lock up California by adding Stanford and Cal.
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