Conference Realignment

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Illini IndyCar Fan

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The B1G strategy really doesn’t make a lot of sense at times and the conference seems more reactive in the moment than strategic. Maryland and Rutgers get added because carriage fees and in-marker rates are a big deal (and now they aren’t as important). Nebraska gets added because football is important, but market size isn’t, and they fit the AAU model. But now their football sucks and they are no longer AAU. Then UCLA and USC are added because markets matter again (but these are two schools that lack the passionate local intensity of many of our college towns for sports), but the conference only wants two west coast schools. We don’t add PNW at this time because they don’t add value, the LA schools don’t want them to come, and we don’t want to be perceived as killing the PAC conference. Then we decide to add these schools even though one has really poor academics and doesn’t fit the profile of a B1G school (Oregon), but they’ve been good at football for 15 years.

The conference just seems to constantly change and react rather than having a plan for what kind of conference we want to be.
 
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KrushCow31 said:
I get people hate ND but adding them to our conference would just absolutely sky rocket the value. So many immediate natural rivals. A natural villain to add to OSU and Michigan. A team Michigan hates too, and has played OSU last season and this season already.

Not to mention the Fandom that ND has. Love them or hate them, they'd make the B1G amazing in this wild west realignment.
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Add ND and Stanford

ND has rivals with MSU scUM OSU PU USC and Stanford

Stanford adds another west coast team which will allow you to have 4 pods of 5 with USC OSU ND PSU being the teams you build around. You would have to pair the rivals you want to preserve in their pod

If ND and Stanford say no then find one team out west and one who is within the historical footprint of the Big Ten
 
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Joel Goodson

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KrushCow31 said:
I get people hate ND but adding them to our conference would just absolutely sky rocket the value. So many immediate natural rivals. A natural villain to add to OSU and Michigan. A team Michigan hates too, and has played OSU last season and this season already.

Not to mention the Fandom that ND has. Love them or hate them, they'd make the B1G amazing in this wild west realignment.
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As long as the Domers have a path to the playoffs and can maintain a healthy revenue stream (they do and they can), they'll stay independent.

If the BIG goes to a 10 game schedule, that might change the calculus. I think the ND will enter into a scheduling agreement with the BIG, but maintain their independence.
 
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KrushCow31

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Navy_illini said:
Add ND and Stanford

ND has rivals with MSU scUM OSU PU USC and Stanford

Stanford adds another west coast team which will allow you to have 4 pods of 5 with USC OSU ND PSU being the teams you build around. You would have to pair the rivals you want to preserve in their pod

If ND and Stanford say no then find one team out west and one who is within the historical footprint of the Big Ten
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It's rare to add teams to your conference and have pre-existing historic rivalries. Idk if ND does it before Stanford... But it's a hard thing to pass on if Stanford goes. If you add Stanford:
2023: 3 B1G teams. OSU, Stanford, USC
2024: 3 B1G teams. USC, Purdue, Stanford
2025: 2 B1G teams. USC, Purdue
2026: 4 B1G teams. Purdue, Wisconsin, Michigan State, USC

Their 2026 schedule right now is almost half B1G already.
 
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Illini IndyCar Fan said:
The B1G strategy really doesn’t make a lot of sense at times and the conference seems more reactive in the moment than strategic.

The conference just seems to constantly change and react rather than having a plan for what kind of conference we want to be.
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Reactive? Hardly. This board was just massively out of touch (all Illinois boards). They are now struggling to deal with reality.

Edit. ACC disruption is also inevitable. Just a matter of when and who.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1561749307505639424
 
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Mr. Roberts

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Joel Goodson said:
As long as the Domers have a path to the playoffs and can maintain a healthy revenue stream (they do and they can), they'll stay independent.

If the BIG goes to a 10 game schedule, that might change the calculus. I think the ND will enter into a scheduling agreement with the BIG, but maintain their independence.
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It all depends on NDs new TV deal in 2025.
 
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Mr. Tibbs said:
the guys team has been in the B1G less than an hour and he’s already disrespecting us . ugh
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Anyone would be salty after what just transpired out west. They had forever to get a deal done and couldn't play with the big boys. They lost their marquee teams, and couldn't come up with a formula to rework the conference. Everyone knew the conferences were playing musical chairs, and in the end, it's the PAC-12 conference that's dancing to someone else's music.

My biggest take-away from all this is just how staggering the money is in men's college football and to a lesser extent, basketball. I mean, I knew there was a ton of money, but with the new play-off format, NIL, conference re-alignment, etc., it's much bigger than I realized.
 
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IlliniFaninHoosierLand

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Of the remaining Pac-12 teams, Cal and Stanford make sense for the Big Ten if they were going to pursue schools more on the academic side than athletics.

Wazzu and Oregon State probably end up in the Mountain West but would have to deal with the shortfall they'd have with how much less TV money the Mountain West gets.
 
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aaeismacgychel

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AutoPoster 3000 said:
I wonder how long it will take for me to stop hating USC/UCLA/Oregon/Washington because they are interlopers who have no business here and start hating them organically just because of who they are. With Nebraska it took me about two and a half years.
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USC is pretty much the Michigan of the Pac10. Huge superiority complex, an elitist obnoxious whiny attitude, and fans who play the part. I'd be surprised if pretty much every B10 fanbase doesn't hate them within their first year of joining. Oregon will probably be a weird one as they'll likely upset the current B10 powerhouses and the traditional institutes the most, but for us, they may be a meh. UCLA and Washington will likely fit in fine and mix it up. I could see the potential for a rivalry there.
 
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