Conference Realignment

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The logistical absurdity of California schools in the ACC notwithstanding, and acknowledging the watered-down TV revenue they will initially receive, they now have a rosier revenue picture from 2030-36 than the schools that jumped to the Big 12.
How are we determining they will have bigger TV deal from 2030 - 2036 than the Big12 when that deal is yet to be determined. Either way, I think that has zero to do with the calculation at this point & it is about picking the best bad choice moving forward for a couple schools that have no good options on the table. I would be willing to bet that if the Big 12 was on the table they would jump hard and fast.
 
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Mr. Tibbs

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How are we determining they will have bigger TV deal from 2030 - 2036 than the Big12 when that deal is yet to be determined. Either way, I think that has zero to do with the calculation at this point & it is about picking the best bad choice moving forward for a couple schools that have no good options on the table. I would be willing to bet that if the Big 12 was on the table they would jump hard and fast.
yup

if the B12 had offered admission to Cal or Stanford, they would have jumped in a NY minute. They would be way better off with that
They are going 3000 miles across 3 times zones because the only other option was the Mountain West at basically no money
 
#182      
So hard to predict, but his point is valid. The way football scheduling has worked, mid-tier and lower-tier programs have been useful in the scheme of things. Doesn't mean that will always be the case, although I expect the 12 team format to the playoff will help. The current deal runs to 2030, but they'll start negotiating at least a year or two out, and that's when the numbers will start to push things along.
 
#184      

Serious Late

Peoria via Denver via Ann Arbor via Albuquerque vi
I would imagine, the key here is putting to rest the idea of WSU/OSU tagging along. Feels like Stanford/Cal are going to keep lowering their price until someone bites. No ACC to getting us for free? Okay, Big 12, how about taking all 4 of us? No. Okay, how about just Stanford/Cal? What, you want us for free? Okay, that is still worth more than the 6 mil we would get from the MWC...
 
#185      
So hard to predict, but his point is valid. The way football scheduling has worked, mid-tier and lower-tier programs have been useful in the scheme of things. Doesn't mean that will always be the case, although I expect the 12 team format to the playoff will help. The current deal runs to 2030, but they'll start negotiating at least a year or two out, and that's when the numbers will start to push things along.
One has to think there will be a consolidation to what, maybe the top 48 schools for football? We need to just keep winning, and improving the fan experience, and we should be able to be a consistent top 15-25 team in both the polls and media eyeballs.

The biggest issue in missing out on all of that top tier of football revenue would be losing that funding for all other sports, and the loss of brand marketing/eyeballs and the possible impact on enrollment. I think the university realizes we have to do all we can to stay in the top tier for the media $$, and will continue to support footballs to benefit everyone else.

The Stanfords/Dukes of the world will be fine with their massive endowments, but we're in a odd spot and really cannot afford to be pushed out of that top media tier.
 
#186      
I get I’m in the minority having very little interest in some Purdue rivalry, but I really wish there were a way we could have a protected matchup with Iowa. :(

Did you know that we didn't play Iowa from 1953 to 1967 (?)... Because of an incident at their stadium throwing bottles etc., at the players and the refs.... There is NO LOVE lost between Illinois and Iowa... believe me...
 
#188      
Did you know that we didn't play Iowa from 1953 to 1967 (?)... Because of an incident at their stadium throwing bottles etc., at the players and the refs.... There is NO LOVE lost between Illinois and Iowa... believe me...
Oh, I knew. Though I’m a native Peorian and current Chicagoan, I lived in Iowa City from 1998 to 2019. :oops:

We have such an opportunity with Bielema to turn that into a great rivalry … and it will probably be seriously hampered by the new schedules if we aren’t in the same divisions/there aren’t divisions.
 
#189      

Kramerica Industries

Greenville, SC
I like the 10-game setup in this video. It's set-up so all pre-1955 rivalry trophies are protected and no one had to protect both Ohio St & Michigan (or Ohio St & Penn St).

We had Northwestern, Purdue, & Ohio St. I'll take that.
Time to dust off the old IlliBuck Trophy.

 
#190      
Time to dust off the old IlliBuck Trophy.

For how lopsided the actual series record is and the proverbial OCEAN that separates the historic pedigree of our two programs … that was a damn underrated rivalry in modern times!! I believe we still have like a .500 record in Columbus since the 1980s, and even in some years where we lost we gave an undefeated OSU some serious scares (2002 and 2006).
 
#191      

Kramerica Industries

Greenville, SC
My 5 year record against the Buckeyes.
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It's kinda funny, cause I always expected a win against those guys.
 
#192      
I like the 10-game setup in this video. It's set-up so all pre-1955 rivalry trophies are protected and no one had to protect both Ohio St & Michigan (or Ohio St & Penn St).
But does it maximize revenue? Cause basically, that's the only thing that matters.
 
#196      
No change to the CFP until conferences carve up the ACC .... err, the "dust settles" in conference realignment.

 
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No change to the CFP until conferences carve up the ACC .... err, the "dust settles" in conference realignment.

So as of today, seems like the PAC4 champion still has a ticket to playoffs... would they have the heart to take that away in the next few years?

Is staying PAC4 an option
... maybe go ahead and add SMU at no payoff if they would take it,
...hold the playoff path for champion out of pity and guilt
...find a buyer for the TV rights for a decent number
late night package/maybe TBS/TNT... maybe the small package appeals to someone
...long term stability is a major concern, but is it a better option than anything else they have?
...maybe partner with another conference for other sports - maybe Gonzaga/WCC
 
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#200      

Mr. Tibbs

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a conference of 4 is not realistic and not sustainable . the CFP doing nothing is a courtesy to let them have time to sort this out . either all 4 will stay together and attract 4-6 other schools to a new PAC , or they will split up and 2 will go to x and 2 will go to y or all 4 become independent

you pretty much need at least 8-9 schools to have viable schedule .
 
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