Waaait, are you trying to say that the next step for Brad Underwood isn't hiring Todd's uncle to kill 10 separate assistant coaches in 3 separate locations in under 2 minutes?
That's just your naivety talking.
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Waaait, are you trying to say that the next step for Brad Underwood isn't hiring Todd's uncle to kill 10 separate assistant coaches in 3 separate locations in under 2 minutes?
That's just your naivety talking.
mhuml32
- Cincinnati, OH
Completely different UL president and administration than the one who made the statement during the initial NCAA/stripper allegations. I believe the initial statements (or at least the publicized ones) from the stripper allegations were from Pitino, himself.
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Interestingly, this isn't the NCAA uncovering cheating. If I understand this correctly (and I may not), it's the feds using the NCAA rules against taking money, to criminalize arrangements that would otherwise be legal.
So if an athlete was paid to sign with a school for the consideration of working with an agent, that would be fine. But because the NCAA won't allow athletes to get paid, that arrangement can't happen, but coaches still want the athletes, and agents still want the athletes, and the athletes want money. So the schools use the agents as middlemen, and essentially create that arrangement that everyone wants, but without getting caught up in NCAA rules. The NCAA doesn't care, as evidenced by their awful enforcement regime, but they do like to look like they're doing something whenever something explodes badly enough.
At some point, someone in the US government became irritated enough with the under the table arrangement going through University employees, to want to crack down on it, or so it would seem.
Super Bonus observation: Makes LaMelo Ball look a lot smarter, not that you care.
mhuml32
- Cincinnati, OH
He can use it to his advantage: "We will make your son rich."
Seems to work for Calipari
We get effected if BU is tied to it. As far as recruits, you damn well bet it will effect us. BU having no knowledge of this, would seem probable, is his bad for having his guy as assistant. Hopefully this all shakes out and he is innocent, only guilty by association.
I'm sure he will have to answer some questions for recruits, and we should expect postponement to happen, maybe even changes of mind. We truly are snake bitten. Several recruits due to commit, and allegations almost always shine negativity toward any involved.
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IRS could come calling next...
given the way these things work, I'm sure the FBI has turned over the particulars of who got $ to their friends at the IRS. I'm guessing some of this money received by families did not make it's way onto their tax returns as declared income. That will be another shoe that drops in all of this.
given the way these things work, I'm sure the FBI has turned over the particulars of who got $ to their friends at the IRS. I'm guessing some of this money received by families did not make it's way onto their tax returns as declared income. That will be another shoe that drops in all of this.
KrushCow31
Former Krush Cow
- Chicago, IL
I can't really see how any recruit would actually care that an assistant at our HC's previous school was sketchy before he coached him and potentially during the 1 year he was Head Coach. Like...why would they care unless Underwood gets suspended? And even then, it would be resolved before they got to campus.
You people honestly think this investigation only happened on at the snap of a finger. This investigation probably went on for a long time. If BU was involved at all he would have been already named. If anything the only bad thing that is happening is association by name and you people freaking out.
icengineer
- Southern Illinois
Not at all! It's people taking bribes at Federally funded public institutions, wire fraud, SEC rules, etc. etc....
This is definitely NOT the FBI acting as NCAA enforcer.
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10 people just got arrested, you think they might be willing to cooperate with the investigation to reduce their sentences? Maybe name some other names, provide some additional evidence? This thing is just starting.
pruman91
- Paducah, Ky
BINGO !!!
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Indeed it is. When facing Fed time, people give up their mothers. And it also sounds like they have other avenues they want to pursue. The quote "it's better if you call us than if we call you" should give anyone pause who thinks this is it.
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I think there a lot of schools worried because no one has any idea what (or who) is next.
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I'd caution fans of schools not involved in this from indulging in too much schadenfreude. Your school could very well be next.
icengineer
- Southern Illinois
What can you say, BU has to make some statement, this doesn't help when your close to closing recruitment process. Wait and see.
I seriously doubt we see any kind of public statement from BU on this. Whitman perhaps.
Maybe so, but there is no paper trail back to BU. This has to do with personal matters and not institutional in regards to the people he was associated with. EVANS is the one who took money on behalf of others to steer recruits. I'm usually a pessimist when it comes to this stuff but I just do not see us being involved at all.
Yeah, I'm not necessarily worried about Illinois just yet.
But a long, long way to go.
FeelYourPaign
- So Cal
Here's an oped calling for the NCAA to look at Louisville for the death penalty, what with $100,000 bribe on top of prostitution scandal.
httpww.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaabk/louisville-basketball-deserves-the-death-penalty-after-latest-scandal/ar-AAsuB9r
httpww.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaabk/louisville-basketball-deserves-the-death-penalty-after-latest-scandal/ar-AAsuB9r
There is no paper trail yet, but this is just the beginning of where this is going. At FBI offices right now there is guaranteed to be Analyst Notebook, Maltego, or Palantir charts with Underwood's name on it simply due to the association with Evans. And as Evans talks (which he realistically will), then you will see whether Underwood has any ties to this type of stuff (Hope is he doesn't).
This announcement was partially the FBI attempting to scare up more intelligence and the agent that spoke essentially confirmed that.
RichBradIllini
- Peoria
Isn't that the definition of 'grey area'? Honestly asking, not being a SA.
And here is Pat Forde agreeing on a Louisville death penalty.
sacraig
- The desert
Not a valid question. What is leading to these indictments is pretty clearly not in a grey area. It's expressly forbidden.
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