FBI College Basketball Corruption Investigation

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ILLINIShox24

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skyIdub said:
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I'm thinking the exact opposite of our new pal tiger.

Remove all the compensation rules for football and basketball. Let the revenue flow to the athletes and their families. There will still be plenty of money for the universities. The teams can be professional with university affiliation.

It won't be an even playing field, but who cares. It's already not an even playing field varying degrees of rule breaking. The Yankees spend 3x as much as the Brewers. At least all of the financials will be out in the open. Most of the trouble today is that this crap has to happen in the shadows.

Bidding war for a kid? Great. Good for the kid and his family. Less money to the shoe companies, middlemen, and the NCAA.

Some schools would stay with compensating in scholarships. Others would hand out bags of money. At least this charade would be over.
 
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MadSeason

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ILLINIShox24 said:
I'm thinking the exact opposite of our new pal tiger.

Remove all the compensation rules for football and basketball. Let the revenue flow to the athletes and their families. There will still be plenty of money for the universities. The teams can be professional with university affiliation.

It won't be an even playing field, but who cares. It's already not an even playing field varying degrees of rule breaking. The Yankees spend 3x as much as the Brewers. At least all of the financials will be out in the open. Most of the trouble today is that this crap has to happen in the shadows.

Bidding war for a kid? Great. Good for the kid and his family. Less money to the shoe companies, middlemen, and the NCAA.

Some schools would stay with compensating in scholarships. Others would hand out bags of money. At least this charade would be over.
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I think you are getting very close to the solution here.I would institute a salary cap with a draconian penalty for going over the cap to help level the playing field. Obviously a part of the proceeds would go to funding the non-revenue sports.

That still leaves endorsement deals and agents to deal with. I would allow the agents in and regulate like any other pro sports and allow players to sign endorsement deals. College football and basketball are huge businesses and it's beyond time to accept this and start letting the money flow legally to a larger portion of the earners

For the kids who want an education as well, they can negotiate a scholarship that as part of their contract.

Oh I almost forgot. KILL the NCAA off. They would no longer be needed and the gravy train ends for that corrupt entity
 
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jrichisamazing said:
How about we just remove sports from college all together? Make school about school and sports about sports.
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Need the school element for fan interest. The big bucks is the identity to specific schools. Too much money out there to let it just go away

I look at it this way. Jim Harbaugh makes over 9 million per year to coach Michigan. Joe Maddon is the highest paid MLB manager at 5 million per year. The Michigan Football revenue is roughly 90 million per year give or take. The Cubs? Roughly 350-400 million

There is a disproportionate amount of revenue going to college coaches which could be better be spent by paying players.
 
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ilphotog

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If ESPN was smart, the would re-air the 30 for 30 about Sonny Vaccaro.
 
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ole 99 said:
The older I get the more I become a fan of how the Ivy League does it.
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Ivy league doesn't give you Rooks scoring against Michigan, or DWILL hitting the 3 against Arizona or my personal favorite Nick Anderson against Indiana.

There is a way to keep big time sports tied to the University while not making a mockery of the whole educational experience
 
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deadpool81

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You don't even need to have the schools or NCAA pay players. Just need NCAA to make it legal for kids to have their own sponsorship deals.
 
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grue

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At the moment the top players go to college until 'they are eligible/good enough for the draft.' If you want them to actually be students, this decision process needs to change. Lets separate the kids who want an education from those who are marking time until the paycheck.

Proposal: If you enroll in a college, you are not eligible to play in the NBA until your college class graduates (4 years).

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illinitiger

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grue said:
At the moment the top players go to college until 'they are eligible/good enough for the draft.' If you want them to actually be students, this decision process needs to change. Lets separate the kids who want an education from those who are marking time until the paycheck.

Proposal: If you enroll in a college, you are not eligible to play in the NBA until your college class graduates (4 years).

[Anyone else want a hit? These shrooms are potent.]
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I see some positives with this, but you still have potential of shoe cos. bidding on behalf of sponsored schools.

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I know this is an NBA thing but does getting rid of the one and done model alleviate alot of this?

The whole point of the money up front is in hope when the kids make it big in the NBA then they will use them when they are rich.

I know another loop hole will form but doesn't that level the playing field at least a little bit?
 
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mikedILLINI

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mdonsbach said:
I know this is an NBA thing but does getting rid of the one and done model alleviate alot of this?

The whole point of the money up front is in hope when the kids make it big in the NBA then they will use them when they are rich.

I know another loop hole will form but doesn't that level the playing field at least a little bit?
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greed will kick in like always and players/coaches/parents will want more $ even if they are paid it wont be enough
 
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IlliniKat91

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But then it's an NBA problem. If kids can be like Kobe and LeBron and sign with a team at 18, companies can legally endorse them and they can get their NBA money off the bat. None of the shady recruiting BS.

I'd like to think that colleges wouldn't pay 3 and 4 star players what they're paying 5 stars now, and shoe companies have less incentive to get involved at the scale they are now if they're getting the next hot player upfront and legally.

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Illinimobile

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Calvin said:
Love it. Relentless at explaining the problem and not shy about where the blame lies.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/20841877/until-ncaa-solves-money-problem-pays-athletes-problems-continue
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"When have you ever heard of a coach being steered to an agent? When have you ever heard of bribes to get a coach to accept a job? When have you ever heard of a bribe to get an athletic director to switch schools? You don't hear such things because those people are allowed to be paid in a free market. It is an aboveboard business, and it works in an orderly fashion. There are contracts with contract remedies. That pesky free market works incredibly well and efficiently for everyone else; it is foolish to assert that it would not work just as well for college athletes. After all, these schools know exactly whom to recruit and whom to play the most minutes in the games. They know whom to pay and how much."​

(Emphasis mine) There you go!
 
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IlliniJim20

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MadSeason said:
I think you are getting very close to the solution here.I would institute a salary cap with a draconian penalty for going over the cap to help level the playing field. Obviously a part of the proceeds would go to funding the non-revenue sports.

That still leaves endorsement deals and agents to deal with. I would allow the agents in and regulate like any other pro sports and allow players to sign endorsement deals. College football and basketball are huge businesses and it's beyond time to accept this and start letting the money flow legally to a larger portion of the earners

For the kids who want an education as well, they can negotiate a scholarship that as part of their contract.

Oh I almost forgot. KILL the NCAA off. They would no longer be needed and the gravy train ends for that corrupt entity
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How will you address Title IX issues?
 
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ritster

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MadSeason said:
Ivy league doesn't give you Rooks scoring against Michigan, or DWILL hitting the 3 against Arizona or my personal favorite Nick Anderson against Indiana.

There is a way to keep big time sports tied to the University while not making a mockery of the whole educational experience
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Love the analogy. However it was Rooks scoring against Ohio State on that glorious Saturday afternoon in 1983.
 
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Illinimobile

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TheGMan said:
Not necessarily. If everyone is doing it, then it basically becomes a wash and you have to recruit players based on things other than purely money. Obviously some schools will pay more than others, but there is likely a cap on that as not to attract too much attention.

Just like with steroids in baseball. "Everyone" in baseball was taking steroids, but McGwire and Bonds still outclassed all of them. They had to extraordinarily gifted hitters beyond just taking a lot of steroids, since taking steroids didn't really give them an advantage over everyone else taking steroids.*

*PS: This is a discussion for another thread/board, but this is why I personally would not be against known steroid users being admitted into the Hall of Fame.
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http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2014/07/frank_thomas_took_auburn_footb.html
 
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