FBI College Basketball Corruption Investigation

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Jeff Goodman‏Verified account @GoodmanESPN 1m1 minute ago

Can the FBI please put a wire tap in the room of this committee? Would love to hear those discussions.

Jeff Goodman‏Verified account @GoodmanESPN 4m4 minutes ago

JT3 on the new committee. Lemme know if I’m incorrect here, but wasn’t his dad pretty darn close with a shoe company?

Jeff Goodman‏Verified account @GoodmanESPN 6m6 minutes ago

Here’s a suggestion for Mark Emmert. Go hire some FBI folks and also find people in college hoops who know how this stuff gets done.
 
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I actually think that the feds made a mistake in drafting their subpoena. They are asking for records only as related to "current" players. I would think that they would have asked for all players on the team since 2014.
 
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Tevo said:
Will you take a personal check? Great, and can I get a receipt for that? Perfect.
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The shoe companies and agents are businesses. They probably account for the money in some way - disguising them consulting fees, etc. - so they could write it off as an expense. Wouldn't surprise me if there is not some kind of trail of the money somewhere.
 
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We know, or can be pretty certain that Juwan Evans received some improper benefits from Ford. The question is whether he asked someone on BU's staff to honor the deal that he had with Ford and his staff.
 
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Honestly, after having read the article, it looks like the FBI is on a fishing expedition. The list of records and time-frame in the subpoena is quite broad, so unless they're trying not to tip their hand on what they're looking for, they don't know what they're looking for.

OTOH, I've got no personal experience with such things, so maybe they do want to keep their intentions quiet so as to be effective with other schools. It's funny how records can vanish...
 
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alaskaillini said:
The shoe companies and agents are businesses. They probably account for the money in some way - disguising them consulting fees, etc. - so they could write it off as an expense. Wouldn't surprise me if there is not some kind of trail of the money somewhere.
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I expect that's the most likely scenario. Would also create some nice fines for the feds. That's how you make a name for yourself
 
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TheGMan said:
So basically Lamont Evans sang like a canary.
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As one would expect. I can see this not hitting many head coaches because I imagine most head coaches at programs that "play" stay out of the loop on recruiting payoffs, for the simple reason they've done so in the past --plausible deniability if the NCAA comes calling.

The FBI has far better tools, but I would imagine that coaches staying out of the loop are not going to be in legal trouble. My reasoning is that the FBI wouldn't go after a HC unless A) they're directly involved or had direct knowledge of those who did and B) they had sufficient evidence (wiretap, paper trail, multiple corroborating witnesses, or similar).

For those reasons, I'm cautiously optimistic about Underwood. That said, nothing would surprise me at this point, and I don't even want to think about a worst case scenario.
 
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IlliniJim20 said:
Again, nobody is that stupid. Cash only.
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Once you connect the dots with the parties involved, you can try to track withdwawals and deposits. And within the companies' accounting systems you have to submit receipts for reimbursement. I suspect that a trail can be followed with those too. You can contact who was supposed to get the money and figure out if they did. People think cash protects them when in truth the system has many ways to track it. Cash makes it harder to detect, but it's really hard to completely cover any money trail, once you know what you're looking for.
 
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In essence we are talking about money laundering too, the purpose of which is to convert illegal money to legal money. So part of the trail will at some point, likely include receipts for services. That would more likely be tracked through the AAU coaches and maybe even assistant coaches. I doubt many individuals would have the sophistication to do this effectively.
 
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I would hope that AD Whitman and Coach Underwood have had the "talk" about this investigation. If there was reason for concern, I would think Mr. Whitman would have addresed or if serious enough, dismissed Coach Underwood. But in the back of my mind and based on our past, I'm uneasy about the whole mess.
 
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In money laundering you take illegal money and convert into legally generated funds. This appears to be legal money turned into illegal means (bribes).
 
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I thought Coach Evans was nailed for something he did at SC. This next step at OSU is disturbing. They seem to either think or have a pretty good idea that Evans either tried or actually duplicated the SC effort at OSU. They are trying to nail him by asking for the recruiting encyclopedia.
 
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These asst coaches are more recruiters than anything else. They bounce around for the best offers. Evans acted like an independent contractor working his side hustle..
 
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SescIllini said:
In money laundering you take illegal money and convert into legally generated funds. This appears to be legal money turned into illegal means (bribes).
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The managers taking the money from the shoe companies is fraud. The AAU coaches and others accepting the money and calling the money something like consulting fees, to make the income seem legitimate, is money laundering.
 
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miketherevelator said:
Conner Mitchell‏ @ConnerMitchell0

BREAKING: FBI says it has documents relating to KU's involvement with Adidas, but can't release them. More:
https://twitter.com/ConnerMitchell0/status/918305118780645376

http://www.kansan.com/sports/fbi-sa...al&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=user-share
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My guess is that if the Oklahoma State newspaper made a similar FOIA request for FBI held docs on their school, they would get exactly the same response. The FBI is not to release evidence from an ongoing investigation, regardless of who they do and do not suspect.
 
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Epsilon said:
The managers taking the money from the shoe companies is fraud. The AAU coaches and others accepting the money and calling the money something like consulting fees, to make the income seem legitimate, is money laundering.
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arent AAU coaches effectively employed by shoe companies?

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