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I doubt that. You think he'd be starting over Epps?
He would've started over Skyy or Epps without a doubt. Doesnt mean his potential is higher, but he would've been a 3rd year guy with the ability to run an offense and create like Epps and Skyy can't quite yet. You take the headache and let the freshmen transition into college off the bench. Problem is he'd have nobody to chuck it to since we aren't a very good catch and shoot or pick and roll team. Underwood has shown loyalty to his upperclassmen.
 
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He would've started over Skyy or Epps without a doubt. Doesnt mean his potential is higher, but he would've been a 3rd year guy with the ability to run an offense and create like Epps and Skyy can't quite yet. You take the headache and let the freshmen transition into college off the bench. Problem is he'd have nobody to chuck it to since we aren't a very good catch and shoot or pick and roll team. Underwood has shown loyalty to his upperclassmen.
Agree to disagree. Clark would've started ahead of him from the get-go, and Epps would've taken Clark's place once he left. That's my opinion, anyway.
 
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illini80

Forgottonia
But Payne and Garcia transferred from Florida and Marquette, respectively, after the 20-21 season. Shouldn’t that have been their one time transfer?
They hand out exemptions to the transfer rule like candy at a Christmas parade. A few are denied, but from what I’ve been told most are approved.If anyone knows of a way to track that I’d be interested.
 
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Agree to disagree. Clark would've started ahead of him from the get-go, and Epps would've taken Clark's place once he left. That's my opinion, anyway.

Skyy Clark would not have been here at all had Curbelo not transferred. Clark was looking for a place where he would start from day one and an Illinois team with Curbelo would not have presented that opportunity.
 
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Skyy Clark would not have been here at all had Curbelo not transferred. Clark was looking for a place where he would start from day one and an Illinois team with Curbelo would not have presented that opportunity.
Let's just say it was pretty clear Illinois was done with Curbelo, opening a spot for Clark. So in effect, they chose Clark over Curbelo. *hint hint* This is dumb. I'm finished with fantasyland discussion. I'm quite happy we're rid of Curbelo (and Clark).
 
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Omar Payne and Jacksonville's season ended today with a loss on the last day of Atlantic Sun regular season play. Payne had 7 points, 7 rebounds, 2 blocks and 2 steals in the loss to Eastern Kentucky. Jacksonville did not qualify for the Atlantic Sun Tournament due to finishing 11th in Conference Play at 6-12. Only the top 10 teams qualify for the Conference Tournament.

Payne should have one remaining year of eligibility, if he wants it, due to the COVID year.
 
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Podz with an off night Thursday. Only had 23 pts 18 rebounds. 😎
Projected to get drafted ahead of all our current players lol. Not sure about that one, but one heck of a step this year for him regardless. Really stinks getting rid of guys that absolutely padded stats in high school. They've proven to have the instincts, unfortunately he just never had the opportunity because of all our upper classmen last year.
 
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We took our chances on Goode being the system guy who’s bigger on D and can shoot 40% instead of Podz (I really wanted him to stay) who is a guy that needs a lot of shots (and the green light for those shots) to be effective.

Goode’s injury bit us.

I’m sure if BU knew he’d lose Goode for 70% of the season he would have done what he could to keep Podz’s shooting in Champaign.
 
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This team is so good Podz had no chance 🙄

Tell me what you want what he was like in practice last year watching him in person in high school he was a no doubter.

We couldn’t use any shooting though so it’s all good
 
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MDchicago

Lake Norman NC
I realize it's the WCC not the BIG but I count 9 double doubles for podz on the season. more than coleman, TSJ, mayer and Dain combined.

It's actually 12 double doubles for Podz so far. And if we are going to play this game, he also has more than Jalen Pickett, Brice Sensabaugh, Tony Perkins, AJ Hoggard and Jalen Hood-Schifino combined. And the entire UCLA roster combined.

I know you noted the differences in leagues, but double doubles as a metric is not really a fair comparison (to the high major guys being referenced) given the differences in competition and available playing time.

At 6-5, it is much easier for Podz to rack up double doubles in the WCC. (E.g., of D1 players (like Podz) that are 6-6 or shorter, none of the top 42 players in the country in terms of DR% play for a high major conference team. Link It is not because all of the best rebounders play outside of the high major conferences, it's just a lot harder to do among bigger, better athletes night after night.

None of this proves anything, other than Podz is thriving as a high usage guy at the level he is playing at. He should be the best player on the court 8 out of 9 nights in that league, considering he is the highest rated recruit on any roster in the league (ex Gonzaga) and that there is only one other player in the league (ex Gonzaga) who was rated in the RSCI top 100. And he is playing like it. Credit to him. But he wouldn't be doing anything close to the same in terms of double doubles even if he played 30+ mpg in the B10.
 
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Goillinikobd

Southeastern US
It's actually 12 double doubles for Podz so far. And if we are going to play this game, he also has more than Jalen Pickett, Brice Sensabaugh, Tony Perkins, AJ Hoggard and Jalen Hood-Schifino combined. And the entire UCLA roster combined.

I know you noted the differences in leagues, but double doubles as a metric is not really a fair comparison (to the high major guys being referenced) given the differences in competition and available playing time.

At 6-5, it is much easier for Podz to rack up double doubles in the WCC. (E.g., of D1 players (like Podz) that are 6-6 or shorter, none of the top 42 players in the country in terms of DR% play for a high major conference team. Link It is not because all of the best rebounders play outside of the high major conferences, it's just a lot harder to do among bigger, better athletes night after night.

None of this proves anything, other than Podz is thriving as a high usage guy at the level he is playing at. He should be the best player on the court 8 out of 9 nights in that league, considering he is the highest rated recruit on any roster in the league (ex Gonzaga) and that there is only one other player in the league (ex Gonzaga) who was rated in the RSCI top 100. And he is playing like it. Credit to him. But he wouldn't be doing anything close to the same in terms of double doubles even if he played 30+ mpg in the B10.
Yes it’s 🍎 to 🍊 , but there are cases where D2 players thrived in D1, so why can’t the same happen if you move from low D1 to high D1 competition?

I think, given NIL, if he doesn’t go
pro he will move up to a true to a P5 league

Why can‘t that be us?
 
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Yes it’s 🍎 to 🍊 , but there are cases where D2 players thrived in D1, so why can’t the same happen if you move from low D1 to high D1 competition?

I think, given NIL, if he doesn’t go
pro he will move up to a true to a P5 league

Why can‘t that be us?
I believe he'll have to sit a year if he transfers again . . . ?
 
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None of this proves anything, other than Podz is thriving as a high usage guy at the level he is playing at.
I agree with the overall point; it's extremely unlikely he'd be playing at the same level in the B10. And trying to determine how he might have performed in the B10 is essentially pointless.

Even so, it's worth noting his average stats vs. KenPom top-25 teams are decent: 14.5 points, 6 rebounds, 2.3 assists, 1.7 turnovers, ~42% 3P, and ~90% FT in ~33 minutes on ~24% usage. Obviously, those wouldn't translate if he were playing here because he wouldn't be getting nearly that much playing time. But he isn't just padding stats vs. bad teams while playing badly vs. good teams.

Also, I wouldn't really consider him a high-usage player at ~25% on the season. That's between Mayer and Shannon, and just outside the top 300 in usage in D1. He's not that stereotypical small-conference high-volume scorer at 35%+ usage.
 
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Yes it’s 🍎 to 🍊 , but there are cases where D2 players thrived in D1, so why can’t the same happen if you move from low D1 to high D1 competition?

I think, given NIL, if he doesn’t go
pro he will move up to a true to a P5 league

Why can‘t that be us?
He has already used his immediate transfer. He would have to apply for an exemption to be immediately eligible.
 
#725      
Yes it’s 🍎 to 🍊 , but there are cases where D2 players thrived in D1, so why can’t the same happen if you move from low D1 to high D1 competition?

I think, given NIL, if he doesn’t go
pro he will move up to a true to a P5 league

Why can‘t that be us?
Why would he transfer anywhere including back here? He's happy, Santa Clara is winning(23-8), he's averaging 20 pts and 8 boards and he has the attention of pro scouts.
 
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