Nunn with a 36 point performance today. Having an outstanding year
Illini Basketball 2017-2018
We all knew he had it in him.
Perhaps, but Nunn did have 32 pts and 7 assists against Michigan State and also had 23 pts vs Kansas
Perhaps, but Nunn did have 32 pts and 7 assists against Michigan State and also had 23 pts vs Kansas
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3 point girl
- texas
Nunn is scoring well but averaging just under 20 shots a game too.
Not sure how accurate RPI is today - Missouri is shown as 17, Lipscomb as 23, Buffalo (who is 6-5 and has not won a game against top 150) is 42 as of 12/27.
All computer metrics, formulas, or prediction models naturally become more accurate as more data becomes available. But at the same time, it is not their use as a single number, but how they are interpreted/used. In your own example, Buffalo seems relatively high as a single RPI number, but when the same RPI metric is used to evaluate quality wins/losses (something that the committee does), it does give an indication in the opposite direction. So the the metric itself, as other computer metrics, do add value.
so, we have a quality win?... 'gainst Missouri, according to RPI... yet looking at them, their quality win would be St. John (RPI 28). Tames it down a bit, but the season's not over.
so what you're saying is that it is the team's RPI, not the opponents RPI that is the biggest factor... I was looking at the RPI forecast site... http://www.rpiforecast.com/index2.html
looks like the SOS forecast is 64, could be better, not as bad as it looks now.... now they also project the final RPI to be 109... far off from the magic land... it also projects our record to 16-14... that means a 7-9 BT record the rest of the way... so, if the Illini were able to go 10-6... that would improve record by almost 20%, that part of the RPI that is 25% of the index. Will that be enough?
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Ransom Stoddard
Ordained Dudeist Priest
- Bloomington, IL
Maybe I'm stating the obvious, but as wins increase beyond projections, the RPI will increase accordingly. If hypothetically we were to go 14-2 the rest of the way, you'd see that RPI moving way, way up to probably the 30's.
Assuming you mean Justin Jackson. They just lost another starter, Ivan Bender, out for the season.
For those of you keeping up, and more importantly know better than I do where to find the information, could you copy/paste the RPI/KenPom/Sagarin or any other metric of B1G teams heading into conference play? If it’s too much work don’t do it, but I’m interested in how we’re matching up as we enter the stretch run of conference play.
FeelYourPaign
- So Cal
I tried to do it, but found that Im not very good at sharing data from my own computer to this site.
And then it occurred to me that the screen that I was using was fee based.
You can get this info on the main page, however, so I feel pretty comfortable sharing the basic rankings.
2 MSU
3 Purdue
29 Maryland
33 Michigan
42 Penn State
44 Minnesota
47 Ohio State
53 Northwestern
69 Wisconsin
76 Iowa
86 Illinois
90 Indiana
97 Nebraska
120 Rutgers
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First, I have to point out that the selection committee does not look at conference standings. And there are plenty of examples of lower ranked teams within a conference making the tourney over higher ranked within the conference.
The answer to the question is the 6th place team has had between 10 and 12 wins since the expansion to 14 teams. I generally agree with your premise though, a team without any significant non conference wins such as UI needs to finish in the top 6 of a relatively weak B1G.
Really good stuff. Thanks. Still a lot of top 50 opportunities ther for us despite the B1G being weaker this year. My other question is, do top 50 victories get measured from where the team was when you played them, or where they are at the end of the season? For example, if we beat Minnesota, and they’re currently 44, they’re a top 50 win. However if they lose all their remaining games, they’ll no longer be top 50. But would they count as a top 50 win because they were top 50 when we played them?
FeelYourPaign
- So Cal
I don't know the answer to your question, but I have always assumed that the rankings are based on the team's rating at the end of the season and not as played. I am pretty sure, however, that games against teams that are missing their star player are viewed with something of an asterisk by the committee. So, if Porter had only missed one game all year for Missouri (i.e. Braggin' Rights), then our win would be devalued. Since he missed most of their games, it shouldn't affect the quality of our win.
the last 3 teams, we play twice...along with Wisconsin and MSU
The committee only looks at this stuff at the end of the season, based on the 'body of work', i.e. full season. Teams are grouped into quadrants, based on a modified RPI. If you beat a top-60 team on the road, it's treated as a top-50 win (quadrant 1). Likewise, a top-50 win is quadrant 2 if played at home. Exceptions are made for injuries and other factors, but there's no good way to predict how those will affect things.
FeelYourPaign
- So Cal
I've been a little miffed with our schedule, because we only have 6 weekend games and only 1 of them on a Saturday. Seems like a small disadvantage, having to play on weeknights, when some folks will stay home rather than be out late.
So, I looked at the entire conference schedule and we aren't being picked on as badly as I thought. A little bit, but Wisconsin got it worse.
Here are the weekend games for each team, out of 18 obviously
Purdue 9
Rutgers 8
MSU 8
Mich 8
Iowa 8
PSU 7
Mary 7
tOSU 7
Illinois 6
Ind 6
Minny 6
Nebby 6
NU 6
Wiscy 4
Wiscy and Illinois are the only teams to get only 1 Saturday game as well. Everyone else has at least 3 Saturday games. Iowa has 6 !
Just a little piece of information . . .
So, I looked at the entire conference schedule and we aren't being picked on as badly as I thought. A little bit, but Wisconsin got it worse.
Here are the weekend games for each team, out of 18 obviously
Purdue 9
Rutgers 8
MSU 8
Mich 8
Iowa 8
PSU 7
Mary 7
tOSU 7
Illinois 6
Ind 6
Minny 6
Nebby 6
NU 6
Wiscy 4
Wiscy and Illinois are the only teams to get only 1 Saturday game as well. Everyone else has at least 3 Saturday games. Iowa has 6 !
Just a little piece of information . . .
I've been a little miffed with our schedule, because we only have 6 weekend games and only 1 of them on a Saturday. Seems like a small disadvantage, having to play on weeknights, when some folks will stay home rather than be out late.
So, I looked at the entire conference schedule and we aren't being picked on as badly as I thought. A little bit, but Wisconsin got it worse.
Here are the weekend games for each team, out of 18 obviously
Purdue 9
Rutgers 8
MSU 8
Mich 8
Iowa 8
PSU 7
Mary 7
tOSU 7
Illinois 6
Ind 6
Minny 6
Nebby 6
NU 6
Wiscy 4
Wiscy and Illinois are the only teams to get only 1 Saturday game as well. Everyone else has at least 3 Saturday games. Iowa has 6 !
Just a little piece of information . . .
Best (worst) part is only 2 of those 6 Illinois weekend games are at home and both on a Sunday. And one of those is a Sunday evening (notoriously poorly attended).
Illiniaaron
- Geneseo, IL
Apparently. There has to be some reason we're bad.
