Illini Basketball 2018-2019

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#179      
Kind of sucks that the last time we lost to Mizzou was the season we got into the NCAA tournament. Hopefully, we can beat both Mizzou and get into the tournament soon!
 
#181      

Illwinsagain

Cary, IL
Id rather beat Mizzou.


I don't live in the St. Louis metro area, so I can only compare it with my hatred of the Cubs, living in Chicagoland. I would rather lose the series to the Cubs, but make the playoffs, while the Cubs sit at home versus the alternative. And my neighbor was giving me crap about the Cards losing the NLCS while the Cubs sucked.

For me, I would rather make the playoffs, tourney, etc, always.
 
#182      

Hands Malone

Quad-Cities, IL
Jeremy Werner Retweeted
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Multiple league sources believe Missouri’s Jontay Porter plans to stay in the 2018 NBA draft and hire an agent. Porter currently projects as a late first/early second round selection.

figured this would happen. Looks like a second round pick.
 
#184      
I've seen him in the first round of a lot of mock drafts :noidea:

Second and Chalmers
Come on, i' God’s name, once more toward our father’s.
Good Lord, how bright and goodly shines the moon!

Hands Malone
The moon? The sun! It is not moonlight now.

Second and Chalmers
I say it is the moon that shines so bright.

Hands Malone
I know it is the sun that shines so bright.

Second and Chalmers
Now, by my mother’s son, and that’s myself,
It shall be moon, or star, or what I list,
Or e'er I journey to your father’s house.
 
#185      
TPbradley...you must be a playwright? trying to figure out who plays the prince of darkness character in this play...

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#192      
https://www.facebook.com/GordonVoitWANDSports/videos/2047001078896659/

Loved that interview Jones did with WAND. A little silly at times from Volt, but kept it light-hearted and fun. Jones acknowledges that he needs to get better defensively, sounds like he wants to do what it takes to keep his minutes. He mentioned that he was given a one and two year plan. We've seen the slide for the Kahlil Whitney pitch (year one, test NBA waters; year two, lottery). Underwood himself says he doesn't believe in class balance. Given that information and the Whitney pitch slide, BU wants to get elite athletes that fit his system and when they're ready to go for the NBA, they're going to go. He wants to create a winning culture that churns out NBA players. He's going to encourage kids to go when they're ready because we will reap the rewards of becoming an elite basketball school again.

A lot of people mentioning worry over "Creaning" players next year the way we're going after 2019 players with just two scholarships - but it's a very REAL possibility that the Illini have multiple players declare for the draft after this year. Based on how year one turned out, guys will transfer out too. FOR EXAMPLE: Maybe Spicy G doesn't develop better and decides to go to a mid-major. We'll have scholarships

Maybe you're thinking, "Oh he's drinking the Kool-Aid'.

BUT, let's talk this through: Ayo, Frazier, (Okoro, if we get him) would be most likely to declare for the draft if anyone; Feliz, Jones, I think could also get there and try to go if we make a tournament run, especially a deep tournament run. Ayo is a better athlete than Frazier by far, and it's very possible Ayo's freshman year > Frazier's freshman year. Frazier is going to get a lot better because we'll have athletic bigs that can run and shoot and catch the ball down low. We'll have more than two offensive threats, so the defense will lose Trent more often than last year. Trent will have more assists and more points.

Feliz and Jones are more of a stretch, but again, you put great players together and they make each other that much better. When Ayo and Trent get hot, then Jones and Feliz will have more opportunities to be open. The very real possibility is, if we get Okoro and he re-classifies to 2018 and enrolls here, we're a top 25-caliber team again, capable of making a run deep into the tournament.
 
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#193      

kuhl84

Orlando, FL
A lot of people mentioning worry over "Creaning" players next year the way we're going after 2019 players with just two scholarships - but it's a very REAL possibility that the Illini have multiple players declare for the draft after this year. Based on how year one turned out, guys will transfer out too. FOR EXAMPLE: Maybe Spicy G doesn't develop better and decides to go to a mid-major. We'll have scholarships

Maybe you're thinking, "Oh he's drinking the Kool-Aid'.

No doubt

No offense meant, but do you watch the NBA? We don't have any player that will be close to draft ready at the end of next season.
 
#194      
Loved that interview Jones did with WAND. A little silly at times from Volt, but kept it light-hearted and fun. Jones acknowledges that he needs to get better defensively, sounds like he wants to do what it takes to keep his minutes. He mentioned that he was given a one and two year plan. We've seen the slide for the Kahlil Whitney pitch (year one, test NBA waters; year two, lottery). Underwood himself says he doesn't believe in class balance. Given that information and the Whitney pitch slide, BU wants to get elite athletes that fit his system and when they're ready to go for the NBA, they're going to go. He wants to create a winning culture that churns out NBA players. He's going to encourage kids to go when they're ready because we will reap the rewards of becoming an elite basketball school again.

A lot of people mentioning worry over "Creaning" players next year the way we're going after 2019 players with just two scholarships - but it's a very REAL possibility that the Illini have multiple players declare for the draft after this year. Based on how year one turned out, guys will transfer out too. FOR EXAMPLE: Maybe Spicy G doesn't develop better and decides to go to a mid-major. We'll have scholarships

Maybe you're thinking, "Oh he's drinking the Kool-Aid'.

BUT, let's talk this through: Ayo, Frazier, (Okoro, if we get him) would be most likely to declare for the draft if anyone; Feliz, Jones, I think could also get there and try to go if we make a tournament run, especially a deep tournament run. Ayo is a better athlete than Frazier by far, and it's very possible Ayo's freshman year > Frazier's freshman year. Frazier is going to get a lot better because we'll have athletic bigs that can run and shoot and catch the ball down low. We'll have more than two offensive threats, so the defense will lose Trent more often than last year. Trent will have more assists and more points.

Feliz and Jones are more of a stretch, but again, you put great players together and they make each other that much better. When Ayo and Trent get hot, then Jones and Feliz will have more opportunities to be open. The very real possibility is, if we get Okoro and he re-classifies to 2018 and enrolls here, we're a top 25-caliber team again, capable of making a run deep into the tournament.

I like this viewpoint.
 
#196      
https://www.facebook.com/GordonVoitWANDSports/videos/2047001078896659/

Loved that interview Jones did with WAND. A little silly at times from Volt, but kept it light-hearted and fun. Jones acknowledges that he needs to get better defensively, sounds like he wants to do what it takes to keep his minutes. He mentioned that he was given a one and two year plan. We've seen the slide for the Kahlil Whitney pitch (year one, test NBA waters; year two, lottery). Underwood himself says he doesn't believe in class balance. Given that information and the Whitney pitch slide, BU wants to get elite athletes that fit his system and when they're ready to go for the NBA, they're going to go. He wants to create a winning culture that churns out NBA players. He's going to encourage kids to go when they're ready because we will reap the rewards of becoming an elite basketball school again.

A lot of people mentioning worry over "Creaning" players next year the way we're going after 2019 players with just two scholarships - but it's a very REAL possibility that the Illini have multiple players declare for the draft after this year. Based on how year one turned out, guys will transfer out too. FOR EXAMPLE: Maybe Spicy G doesn't develop better and decides to go to a mid-major. We'll have scholarships

Maybe you're thinking, "Oh he's drinking the Kool-Aid'.

BUT, let's talk this through: Ayo, Frazier, (Okoro, if we get him) would be most likely to declare for the draft if anyone; Feliz, Jones, I think could also get there and try to go if we make a tournament run, especially a deep tournament run. Ayo is a better athlete than Frazier by far, and it's very possible Ayo's freshman year > Frazier's freshman year. Frazier is going to get a lot better because we'll have athletic bigs that can run and shoot and catch the ball down low. We'll have more than two offensive threats, so the defense will lose Trent more often than last year. Trent will have more assists and more points.

Feliz and Jones are more of a stretch, but again, you put great players together and they make each other that much better. When Ayo and Trent get hot, then Jones and Feliz will have more opportunities to be open. The very real possibility is, if we get Okoro and he re-classifies to 2018 and enrolls here, we're a top 25-caliber team again, capable of making a run deep into the tournament.

Very optimistic, maybe a little farther then I believe , but possible. Getting into the tournament would be great, if it would happen we would a couple of things go with it. . We would finish in top half of big ten, maybe top 4. All being hypothetical, this would mean standout play by one or more individuals. It could all snowball very good, or with a key injury or issue could go south fast, as we have seen happen before.

All being said, putting the guys together, implementing the culture and system, is what we are waiting for, the outcome is what will be measuring stick that the players and staff will be judged on. Love the optimistic view, let's rub the rabbit foot hard hope all falls in place. ;):illinois:
 
#197      

Govoner Vaugn Fan

New Orleans
https://www.facebook.com/GordonVoitWANDSports/videos/2047001078896659/

Loved that interview Jones did with WAND. A little silly at times from Volt, but kept it light-hearted and fun. Jones acknowledges that he needs to get better defensively, sounds like he wants to do what it takes to keep his minutes. He mentioned that he was given a one and two year plan. We've seen the slide for the Kahlil Whitney pitch (year one, test NBA waters; year two, lottery). Underwood himself says he doesn't believe in class balance. Given that information and the Whitney pitch slide, BU wants to get elite athletes that fit his system and when they're ready to go for the NBA, they're going to go. He wants to create a winning culture that churns out NBA players. He's going to encourage kids to go when they're ready because we will reap the rewards of becoming an elite basketball school again.

A lot of people mentioning worry over "Creaning" players next year the way we're going after 2019 players with just two scholarships - but it's a very REAL possibility that the Illini have multiple players declare for the draft after this year. Based on how year one turned out, guys will transfer out too. FOR EXAMPLE: Maybe Spicy G doesn't develop better and decides to go to a mid-major. We'll have scholarships

Maybe you're thinking, "Oh he's drinking the Kool-Aid'.

BUT, let's talk this through: Ayo, Frazier, (Okoro, if we get him) would be most likely to declare for the draft if anyone; Feliz, Jones, I think could also get there and try to go if we make a tournament run, especially a deep tournament run. Ayo is a better athlete than Frazier by far, and it's very possible Ayo's freshman year > Frazier's freshman year. Frazier is going to get a lot better because we'll have athletic bigs that can run and shoot and catch the ball down low. We'll have more than two offensive threats, so the defense will lose Trent more often than last year. Trent will have more assists and more points.

Feliz and Jones are more of a stretch, but again, you put great players together and they make each other that much better. When Ayo and Trent get hot, then Jones and Feliz will have more opportunities to be open. The very real possibility is, if we get Okoro and he re-classifies to 2018 and enrolls here, we're a top 25-caliber team again, capable of making a run deep into the tournament.

A little optimistic considering we are talking about a team that is based on freshman performing at the highest level. It does happen, but that is the exception rather than the rule. An overall winning record, and having a shot at the tourney going down the stretch seems like a more realistic goal.
 
#198      
https://www.facebook.com/GordonVoitWANDSports/videos/2047001078896659/

Loved that interview Jones did with WAND. A little silly at times from Volt, but kept it light-hearted and fun. Jones acknowledges that he needs to get better defensively, sounds like he wants to do what it takes to keep his minutes. He mentioned that he was given a one and two year plan. We've seen the slide for the Kahlil Whitney pitch (year one, test NBA waters; year two, lottery). Underwood himself says he doesn't believe in class balance. Given that information and the Whitney pitch slide, BU wants to get elite athletes that fit his system and when they're ready to go for the NBA, they're going to go. He wants to create a winning culture that churns out NBA players. He's going to encourage kids to go when they're ready because we will reap the rewards of becoming an elite basketball school again.

A lot of people mentioning worry over "Creaning" players next year the way we're going after 2019 players with just two scholarships - but it's a very REAL possibility that the Illini have multiple players declare for the draft after this year. Based on how year one turned out, guys will transfer out too. FOR EXAMPLE: Maybe Spicy G doesn't develop better and decides to go to a mid-major. We'll have scholarships

Maybe you're thinking, "Oh he's drinking the Kool-Aid'.

BUT, let's talk this through: Ayo, Frazier, (Okoro, if we get him) would be most likely to declare for the draft if anyone; Feliz, Jones, I think could also get there and try to go if we make a tournament run, especially a deep tournament run. Ayo is a better athlete than Frazier by far, and it's very possible Ayo's freshman year > Frazier's freshman year. Frazier is going to get a lot better because we'll have athletic bigs that can run and shoot and catch the ball down low. We'll have more than two offensive threats, so the defense will lose Trent more often than last year. Trent will have more assists and more points.

Feliz and Jones are more of a stretch, but again, you put great players together and they make each other that much better. When Ayo and Trent get hot, then Jones and Feliz will have more opportunities to be open. The very real possibility is, if we get Okoro and he re-classifies to 2018 and enrolls here, we're a top 25-caliber team again, capable of making a run deep into the tournament.
Jones' face looks a little like Devon Mitchell's. If his play is anywhere close he'll be a star.
 
#199      

Peoria Illini

Peoria, IL
Very optimistic, maybe a little farther then I believe , but possible. Getting into the tournament would be great, if it would happen we would a couple of things go with it. . We would finish in top half of big ten, maybe top 4. All being hypothetical, this would mean standout play by one or more individuals. It could all snowball very good, or with a key injury or issue could go south fast, as we have seen happen before.

All being said, putting the guys together, implementing the culture and system, is what we are waiting for, the outcome is what will be measuring stick that the players and staff will be judged on. Love the optimistic view, let's rub the rabbit foot hard hope all falls in place. ;):illinois:

Shon Morris had MSU, Maryland, Mich, Neb and PSU as his top 5 teams going into next season. He had IU on the outside of that with the Langford commitment. Purdue on the outskirts as well.

I'd love for a top half Big Ten finish for us.
 
#200      

Peoria Illini

Peoria, IL
Not impressed by Nebraska. They played a weak schedule in the B1G, plus did little to nothing in the non-con, besides a close loss to KU.

Don't disagree. Just saw it on BTN this morning getting ready for work. I know Purdue has lost a lot, but I don't count them out. Painter usually will have them in the hunt.
 
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