Illini Basketball 2021-2022

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The sarcasm has been directed at the people already anointing him as an NBA draftee next year sight unseen. None of it has been directed at him. I am fairly confident that every single person here wants to see him end up being that good. Some of us are just suggesting we pump the brakes a bit on the hype.
But for the weird knife carrying defense I feel like you’d be riding a 100% post-agree-with streak since the beginning of time for me. (In case you were unaware, a post-agree-with streak is a thing.)
 
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And his shot is not half bad either!
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The sarcasm has been directed at the people already anointing him as an NBA draftee next year sight unseen. None of it has been directed at him. I am fairly confident that every single person here wants to see him end up being that good. Some of us are just suggesting we pump the brakes a bit on the hype.
How about pumping them for someone that played 6.3 minutes a game, shot 35% from the field, 23% from three and looks good in practice. I hope CH plays great and gets better but he nor anyone outside of Payne and maybe RJ is near the athlete Hutch is. Not Tf DMW or anyone. Some newcomers can be be better athletes and players. I recall people thinking Jordan Clarkson was not big deal because he was from Tulsa when I was a lurker. He was not any good because it was a mid major or Feliz as a Juco could be that good. Hutch has far more reasons to be excited about upside due to his past performance even if it was D3 when he killed it, his awesome athleticism and skill set. We have not had many elite athletes on the wings in a while. The last one was Nunn or BP. I love Ayo and hope he kills it and he deserves everything he gets. Hutch was working out with NBA guys for a reason too plus had great offers and if healthy has a very high high upside compared to any 2,or 3 on our squad.
 
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Welcome to the Illini Basketball & College Basketball 2022-2022 thread :illinois:

Schedule
Illinois at Marquette (Gavitt Games, Nov. 15th)
Illinois vs Cincinnati (Nov. 22nd), IL vs Arkansas/Kansas State (Nov. 23rd) - Hall of Fame Classic, Kansas City
Illinois vs Notre Dame (ACC/Big Ten Challenge, Nov. 29th)
Illinois vs Arizona (Dec. 11th)
Illinois vs Missouri (Braggin' Rights in St. Louis, date TBD)

Big Ten 20-game breakdown:
Home Only – Ohio State, Penn State, Wisconsin
Away Only – Indiana, Minnesota, Nebraska
Home & Away – Iowa, Maryland, Michigan, Michigan State, Northwestern, Purdue, Rutgers


Roster
Trent Frazier
Andre Curbelo
Alfonso Plummer
Luke Goode
Brandin Podziemski
Da'Monte Williams
Jacob Grandison
Austin Hutcherson
Ramses Melendez
Omar Payne
Benjamin Bosmans-Verdonk
Coleman Hawkins
Brandon Lieb
Kofi Cockburn
All of these teams (except Missouri) are in T-rank top 100 with 3 of them in the top 35. could very well be 5-6 QUAD 1/2 games here.
 
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How high is he touching in the video?
There is a string it appears to be about 6 inches long hanging down fromthe beam running lengthwise thats above the backboard. The top of a backboard is 13 feet i believe since the backboard us 42 inches tall and the rim is 6 inches from the bottom of the board. He has elite hops! Lol
 
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kcib8130

Parts Unknown
The top of a regulation backboard is roughly 3.5 feet. Assuming 10 feet on the hoop, his fingertips are just below 13'5" (I'm guessing).
JMO, but the low camera angle throws all the perspective off. 13.5 feet seems impossible. I don’t even think prime Dwight Howard could get that high on his best effort.

Prepared for someone to state he was at 14.5 feet.
 
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JMO, but the low camera angle throws all the perspective off. 13.5 feet seems impossible. I don’t even think prime Dwight Howard could get that high on his best effort.

Prepared for someone to state he was at 14.5 feet.
The angle does make it look higher but still the top the backboard is 13 feet. (42 inch board with 6 below the rim) The string is about 6 inches long hanging from a beam above the backboard a couple inches so Hutch was above. at or very close to 13 feet high. If you look you can see the string. They must try to touch it and id bet he and Omar can and likely the only ones that can, maybe RJ.
 
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IlliniKat91

Chicago, IL
JMO, but the low camera angle throws all the perspective off. 13.5 feet seems impossible. I don’t even think prime Dwight Howard could get that high on his best effort.

Prepared for someone to state he was at 14.5 feet.
Not 13.5. I said 13'5". It's a tiny quibble, but I think his hand is just below that 13.5. You're right that the angle of the camera throws it off, but we know that a hoop is 10' and the top of the backboard is 3'6" beyond that. So, that puts his hand (not his head mind you) somewhere around 13'5" at my best estimate
 
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IlliniKat91

Chicago, IL
The angle does make it look higher but still the top the backboard is 13 feet. (42 inch board with 6 below the rim) The string is about 6 inches long hanging from a beam above the backboard a couple inches so Hutch was above. at or very close to 13 feet high. If you look you can see the string. They must try to touch it and id bet he and Omar can and likely the only ones that can, maybe RJ.
I don't see a string. I do see the same equipment used to measure vertical leap in the combine though. Because of the angle of the camera mentioned above, plus the apparatus being set forward from the rim, it's absolutely skewing the number.

Looks like it tops out at 12', which is still pretty damn impressive.

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Vertical Jump Equipment
 
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Pardon me. First time I saw this one was today. Sorry if you find that annoying and I wasn't aware it had been posted before. I will not apologize for posting Muck Fichigan even though I've seen that since the mid 70s. Others obviously liked the video even if you had seen it. Although for me like White Horse Wings watching that video may never get old if someone like Hutch is wearing orange n blue!
PREACH! I watch stuff I enjoy many times...sometimes I see something I missed before or wasn't looking for certain tendencies at that instant. It's all good. Everyone is looking forward to something to react to (me included) I think we're having withdrawal from transfers, assistant coaches and NIL threads.
 
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sacraig

The desert
How about pumping them for someone that played 6.3 minutes a game, shot 35% from the field, 23% from three and looks good in practice. I hope CH plays great and gets better but he nor anyone outside of Payne and maybe RJ is near the athlete Hutch is. Not Tf DMW or anyone. Some newcomers can be be better athletes and players. I recall people thinking Jordan Clarkson was not big deal because he was from Tulsa when I was a lurker. He was not any good because it was a mid major or Feliz as a Juco could be that good. Hutch has far more reasons to be excited about upside due to his past performance even if it was D3 when he killed it, his awesome athleticism and skill set. We have not had many elite athletes on the wings in a while. The last one was Nunn or BP. I love Ayo and hope he kills it and he deserves everything he gets. Hutch was working out with NBA guys for a reason too plus had great offers and if healthy has a very high high upside compared to any 2,or 3 on our squad.
In general, I have been completely off any hype train based on practice reports since the Alex Legion debacle. A kid can be super athletic and light it up in practice and still be a dud if he can't translate into the minutes that actually count. So therefore, I am not really on the hype train for Hawkins or Hutcherson. I hope they both blow the lid off the State Farm Center with their play this year.

Until they do, though, all the upside, athleticism, "it," x-factor and production in practice mean diddly until they're converted into game stats. For the time being, I will just let myself be no greater than cautiously optimistic.
 
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The sarcasm has been directed at the people already anointing him as an NBA draftee next year sight unseen. None of it has been directed at him. I am fairly confident that every single person here wants to see him end up being that good. Some of us are just suggesting we pump the brakes a bit on the hype.
This 100%. Just seems premature. Dude has not play a single real game in 2 YEARS and it was against DII opponents. I mean, Underwood has sung his praises but Mark Smith apparently looked like JKidd in practice soooo...plus a guy today on a separate message board told me he’s going to start over DaMonte from game 1. I want him to be good but I just need to see with my own eyes.
 
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In general, I have been completely off any hype train based on practice reports since the Alex Legion debacle. A kid can be super athletic and light it up in practice and still be a dud if he can't translate into the minutes that actually count. So therefore, I am not really on the hype train for Hawkins or Hutcherson. I hope they both blow the lid off the State Farm Center with their play this year.

Until they do, though, all the upside, athleticism, "it," x-factor and production in practice mean diddly until they're converted into game stats. For the time being, I will just let myself be no greater than cautiously optimistic.
I agree with you about practice reports. I'm basing my expectations on games that I have seen for these two players and their athletic ability or eye test I've seen. I realize it was D3 but he was the best player on the court, clearly has skill and pits the ball in the basket. I know uts not B10 but it isn't high school either and there is reason to be excited when I see him play, his offers, the fact he worksout with NBA players like Vonleh and trust BU's evalution of him. I'm not basing it on practice reports.
 
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In general, I have been completely off any hype train based on practice reports since the Alex Legion debacle. A kid can be super athletic and light it up in practice and still be a dud if he can't translate into the minutes that actually count. So therefore, I am not really on the hype train for Hawkins or Hutcherson. I hope they both blow the lid off the State Farm Center with their play this year.

Until they do, though, all the upside, athleticism, "it," x-factor and production in practice mean diddly until they're converted into game stats. For the time being, I will just let myself be no greater than cautiously optimistic.
How dare you make sensible remarks on this board!
 
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