Illini Basketball 2023-2024
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Not sure you can draw any conclusions from CP scoring more, in this game or the season, when you also acknowledge the bolded. DW didn't have to score and would have hurt the team by scoring more. He didn't to do anything more than be who he was. Put him on a lesser team and I believe his individual stats would explode.
InDaAZ
- Eugene, Oregon
If I was his image consultant, I’d advise he stop going to the nose so often…
(and no more press conference raspberries
).Seriously, though, I’m starting to think this group of players may surprise the doubters!
My main worry is handling fierce ball pressure - but I think we have the talent, size, depth, and veteran experience to match just about anyone.
The key there is that he was more efficient in doing so. CP3 was an incredible 3 point shooter in college, shot better from the field, and was much better at the stripe. His scoring wasn’t about volume, he actually averaged fewer attempts per game than Deron.
Again, this isn’t a slight against Deron. I just don’t think people on this board acknowledge just how good CP3 was/is because we want so badly to believe our guy was superior.
the national
- the Front Range
The key to ball pressure is passing. Make them pay for the pressure by ending one on one at the basket. Roster is full of finishers at the basket.
If I was his image consultant, I’d advise he stop going to the nose so often…
(and no more press conference raspberries
Seriously, though, I’m starting to think this group of players may surprise the doubters!
My main worry is handling fierce ball pressure - but I think we have the talent, size, depth, and veteran experience to match just about anyone.
Paul shot the ball more than Deron in college- he just got fouled more- Paul also shot 44% from 2 in his last year while Deron shot close to 50% from two. Deron was much better finishing at the rim and avg more assists. Deron was also a bigger/more physical player Paul was a better three point shooter and free throw shooter no doubt.
Wake was the number 1 team in the country at one point in the season and they didn’t get out of the second round in the tourney. Deron led his team to the championship game, he stepped up in big games when it counted
Clearly it’s splitting hairs who was the better college point guard- it was heavily debated at the time - they went back to back in the draft - but it wasn’t as obvious as you want to believe
pruman91
- Paducah, Ky
My only post about Deron-Paul is the 3 point shot that Deron made to tie the zona game was such a spellbinding moment in Illini history............I still get goosebumps just thinking about that comeback that I will profess to say that anything is possible if you play with the " heart of a champion ".......................................jmho
splitter
- and not Nebraska
Agree that going to the nose even once is too often. The raspberry reaction was pretty much what I was feeling at the time too.
If I was his image consultant, I’d advise he stop going to the nose so often…
(and no more press conference raspberries
Seriously, though, I’m starting to think this group of players may surprise the doubters!
My main worry is handling fierce ball pressure - but I think we have the talent, size, depth, and veteran experience to match just about anyone.
My biggest concern is end if game FT shooting. Unless there is drastic improvement i dont want Ty or Harris with the ball and at the line. I am not crazy about Hawkins at the line either.
If I was his image consultant, I’d advise he stop going to the nose so often…
(and no more press conference raspberries
Seriously, though, I’m starting to think this group of players may surprise the doubters!
My main worry is handling fierce ball pressure - but I think we have the talent, size, depth, and veteran experience to match just about anyone.
Illini in OC
In. The. Alley.
I have a sense that BU wanted to make this offseason and next season about establishing an enduring Every Day Guys culture above all else. Sorry if too Pollyanna.
If I was his image consultant, I’d advise he stop going to the nose so often…
(and no more press conference raspberries
Seriously, though, I’m starting to think this group of players may surprise the doubters!
My main worry is handling fierce ball pressure - but I think we have the talent, size, depth, and veteran experience to match just about anyone.
This culture will be the key to our long term success. We will continue to attract the right talent that fits and accepts it..... I am ready for some Amani
Izzo has established this at MSU.. It doesn't change. He doesn't change. No one ever wants to play MSU. That's who I want us to be - always feared.
Seems like we took a step backward last year. TSJ, Hawk, Luke, Ty and Sencire will set the tone for the new players. They will become this generation's Lucas Johnson/Roger Powell.
Looking for Dain to become what he can become. New adds will fit the culture and add skill and IQ.
We will figure out the PG situation. It may be ugly but we will kill people on the defensive end and will consistently win our fair share.
Bigtex
- DFW
Hawkins decision making is questionable / lead team in turnovers last year. Much rather see Hawkins around the lane both offensively and defensively
wettsten
- Chicago
not sure where else to put this but the Huggins saga rolls on:
www.espn.com
Huggins calls resignation letter 'false statement'
Bob Huggins said he did not draft or review the statement that announced his resignation as West Virginia's men's basketball coach last month.
IllinoisFan733
- Chicago
Great ambassador for the Illini and the University of Illinois. One of my all time favorites.
Just beating a dead horse with the PG topic, but, does the staff not feel TSJ could assume the lead guard role full time? I know he’s limited to his dominate hand.
Why not put TSJ at the 1 and Ty at the 3? Ty can still relieve some pressure with his ability to create and handle.
Why not put TSJ at the 1 and Ty at the 3? Ty can still relieve some pressure with his ability to create and handle.
I’m not sure what to make out of any of this.The AD office was just in such a hurry to get him out they didn’t follow any kind of normal protocol?not sure where else to put this but the Huggins saga rolls on:
Huggins calls resignation letter 'false statement'
Bob Huggins said he did not draft or review the statement that announced his resignation as West Virginia's men's basketball coach last month.
mhuml32
- Cincinnati, OH
He's both. Ayo is such a great finisher at the rim that he was one of the top finishers at the rim this past year in the NBA.
Have you seen him handle 1on1 full court vs pressure
Bigtex
- DFW
flash back to Purdue game and Newman breaking away for easy dunks...
I'd add a couple things that made him all-world IMHO. He deferred most of the time, but when he needed to, he could be unstoppable on his own. I think in the historic comeback to get the FF, he scored all but a couple buckets (IIRC, Dee had a fast break and Luther hit a shot or two). He had teammates that were strong enough that he could get them involved, but I think if asked, he would have better individual stats. I remember practice reports in the offseason that no one could defend against him.
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