I get it that TA should stay out of the fray on this.....but I do find it Ironic and a little surprising.... that loyalty "fans" are throwing shade at TA, when he was effectively standing up for fans and his actions were not physical...and some have called Reese' antics punkish.
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Give me a break. We got 24 shots at the rim. Brad didn't miss them for these guys. Guess he should have schemed to get 24 dunks so they might make a few.
The team was FLAT. You can't do much to adjust out of that. Maybe yell at them to shock them into focusing better.
I didn't think our D was the problem. We shot it like crap, and it was a one possession game with a little over a minute left. Our D was plenty good enough to win, it was our lack of O that did us in.
Get tired of this BU can't coach, when we are 12-4, ranked 14th and tied for 4th in the B1G.
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You could have the most brilliant coaching mind in basketball and it would be worthless if your team didn’t show any effort. Our defense (and our offense for that matter) weren’t working because we looked like we were playing in sand.
IlliniKat91
- Chicago, IL
TA is a grown man. Reese is in his early 20s and still learning. When you work in a coach/mentorship/educator role, you need to remember who's the adult in the room, even if the people you're working with are legally adults. Even when they're not on the team you're coaching.
If I had to work a sporting event in my building and popped off on an 18 year old kid from the other school for what he said, I'd (correctly) be spoken to about it. TA probably just should have avoided the line entirely if he was that annoyed by Reese.
Big Jack
- Decatur
Generally because IMHO because as with Twitter, Instagram and Facebook they're way to many trolls who just want to read their own print and have no clue as to what they really know about most anything in this world.. One only needs to open any news article online to realize there are way to many internet trolls out there. Dan has a great board but day by day more crazies are allowed to join here.
That's one perspective, and not a bad one. There's also the perspective that the adult (TA) was correcting a young man that was acting out in public.
I do disagree with the comment that Reese is "in his early 20's and still learning". He's a grown man, living in a world where he is accountable for his actions and words, and one in which some of his his peers (age-wise) have far greater responsibility, with far greater impacts and potential liabilities to both themselves and others. He can certainly comport himself better in public. That having been said, I enjoy watching Reese play the game, he's a skilled player.
IlliniKat91
- Chicago, IL
My point re: Reese's age is that when you compare him to TA, TA has more life experience and should know better. I expect a man in his late 30s/early 40s to comport himself better under stressful situations than someone in their 20s. The maturity level should be there.
Reese's coaches should have spoken to him about his chirping at the crowd. I'm not saying that should have been ignored at all, but the way TA handled it wasn't right, either.
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Let’s face it, there’s a contingent of fans that dislike BU. The grass is always greener for some. They need to look at our performance as a whole these last four plus years.
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Nah besides racism our players need to be able to handle almost almost anything said to them. I’m not bothered by what TA did either though. IMO, this isn’t newsworthy.
The part that’s missing from this Confucian-esque perspective is that the younger party should show deference and respect to the elder.
Hell that's been gone from our society since about 1975 . . . .
I think that many of us want him to be dead wrong, but there's a part of all of us that are worried that he's right.
That take is a fair one. You don't just lose an All American and expect to continue on with not missing a beat.
The two games that we've lost without TJ... we've gone on extensive scoring droughts where the game got away from us. We don't go on a 3-23 stretch. He'd create his own shot and he'd get to the line.
Defensively, replacing a long and athletic 6'6" player that's an absolute ball hawk is going to be missed. You can see where Domask and Rodgers struggling versus the better athletes. Tennessee and Maryland stock out.
I have no problem taking a cautious approach. We're going to start seeing coaching adjustments to tendencies without TJ. I think that "booty ball" days are coming to an end. What else do we have? It'll be interesting.
IlliniKat91
- Chicago, IL
Don't disagree. We see it in schools all the time. It starts at home.
Still, the logic that you should be disrespectful in response to disrespect is flawed. You end up digging yourself into a deeper hole with no resolution. Maturity also means knowing when to walk away from something.
pruman91
- Paducah, Ky
easier said than done , Kat..................it really really is..................
or, around the time that WE became the elder party. Damn whippersnappers.Hell that's been gone from our society since about 1975 . . . .
IlliniKat91
- Chicago, IL
Trust me, pru, I know. I've worked mostly in Title I schools, which is where you see the highest incidents of need and trauma. Most of my students are processing trauma and don't realize it. They act out in explosive ways more often than not.
The key though is to control the energy of an exchange instead of matching it. You match the disrespect, you lose. If you set boundaries and standard of behavior by telling the kid, "I'll help you but not when you speak to me like that," or, "I need you to do X before we can think about doing Y," you tend to get better results, particularly when they see you approach everyone the same way.
pruman91
- Paducah, Ky
I commend you on your career work path of life.......And I have complete confidence that you know what your doing and how best to diffuse a situation with the quoted parts of your post above............I really really do.......
Fighter of the Nightman
- Chicago, IL
Honestly not sure why racism is some sacred exception … there are plenty of horrifically offensive things opposing fans could say to one of our players that would in fact probably enrage them quite a bit more than a racist taunt. Things UMD students said about JJ Reddick’s LITTLE SISTER come to mind.
I think there are good arguments for supporting players/coaches standing up to this kind of thing and I think it’s fair to argue that part of their positions is to (while on the court) turn the other cheek … but I don’t think a policy of, “Ignore it unless it’s racist” is very good.
Goillinikobd
- Southeastern US
If I consider the tree parties involved, Reese, TA, and the MD staff, who i assume could hear Reese, my accountability starts with the MD staff not stepping in first, long before the handshake line.
Racism isn’t the only time where it can cross the line but it’s one of the few areas that most people can agree upon about taunting going too far. I’d include sexually charged language in the almost anything category. Just repeating Abby Reddick is a little gray though, I’ll give you that. It’s not an exhaustive list at the moment.
Kat these are great comments on controlling energy, not matching, etc....really good takeaways we can all use
On a lighter note....and to expand on your comments...
I believe Most of illinois Loyalty members (like your students) ""are processing Trama and don't realize it" LOL
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