Illini Basketball 2023-2024

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#127      
I think last night we discovered what we always new we had... lightning in a bottle.

If Ty continues to play aggressive on offense, like he did last night, he's going to make a lot of defenses stretched beyond their capacity to stop our team. And he'll put a lot of points on the board.
 
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Bigtex

DFW
I think last night we discovered what we always new we had... lightning in a bottle.

If Ty continues to play aggressive on offense, like he did last night, he's going to make a lot of defenses stretched beyond their capacity to stop our team. And he'll put a lot of points on the board.
With centers guarding Rodgers his rebounds have dropped significantly. 2 rebounds against Purdue and 1 against sparty
 
#133      
The last few games before MD probably got my expectations higher than they realistically should be without TSJ. It's a credit to the staff and players that we were playing at a top 10 level, but we're just not as dynamic without our All American, especially defensively.

I still think this is a legit top 25 team even without him though and we have enough pop on offense to get a 4 seed.
 
#134      
The last few games before MD probably got my expectations higher than they realistically should be without TSJ. It's a credit to the staff and players that we were playing at a top 10 level, but we're just not as dynamic without our All American, especially defensively.

I still think this is a legit top 25 team even without him though and we have enough pop on offense to get a 4 seed.
Agreed. This is still a top 25 team, and a 4 seed is possible without Shannon. With that being said, regardless if he comes back or not, a game/effort like that one cannot happen again, zero excuses
 
#135      
Agreed. This is still a top 25 team, and a 4 seed is possible without Shannon. With that being said, regardless if he comes back or not, a game/effort like that one cannot happen again, zero excuses
I didn’t think the effort was terrible. Could there have maybe been a little more on defense, sure, but effort is not something I see as a big issue with this years team. Last year it was.

To me, yesterday’s game was about not hitting shots in the 2nd half, getting sloppy with the ball in key situations, and some game planning/strategy. I also think it highlighted the difference in this team w/ TSJ vs. without.
 
#137      
Can someone help me out with a solid player comparison expectation for DGL? I was just thinking about the future of Amani Hansberry, Morez Johnson, Nico Moretti, DGL, etc and got pretty excited for the potential of the young guys.
 
#138      
Can someone help me out with a solid player comparison expectation for DGL? I was just thinking about the future of Amani Hansberry, Morez Johnson, Nico Moretti, DGL, etc and got pretty excited for the potential of the young guys.

Carson Edwards is a good comp I've seen tossed around. Volume scorer, small but uses his athleticism to finish at the rim, can get hot from 3.
 
#139      
I agree @Kendall Gill’s Uncle. Effort wasn’t the issue when the Illini built an 11 point lead. The problem was that Maryland found a few things that worked on Offense and Defense and the Illini coaches did nothing to adjust. Yesterday was on the coaches 100%, and Tim’s handshake antics were the icing on bad day for the staff.
Agreed no excuses for TA. I think the effort could have been better but I don't put this loss on the coaches. Missed layups and TOs played a larger role in this game than lack of in-game adjustments.
 
#142      

skyIdub

Winged Warrior
F$ck Reese.

TA all day.

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#143      
Yall love to find some coaching issues…..we made 8 layups and didn’t rebound….thats pretty much it…..as for TA…..Reese said some things to the fans that TA didn’t think was very tasteful.
Definitely some significant effort issues, but I think “missing layups” is an oversimplification. There were a few we should’ve made, but a lot of it was their defense and length around the rim.

With that said, the coaching issue I had was on the defensive end. We were getting torched in the paint and couldn’t handle Reese. Against a shooting-challenged team I think we should’ve been doubling Reese on the catch pretty much all game. I Also would’ve liked to see us look to force Young right more and maybe even throw a zone at them since again they’re not a great shooting team
 
#144      
Here's all of the missed "shots at the rim" that I found while skimming through the film. The vast majority of these were well defended but some definitely should have made. Shot selection wasn't great with some of these attempts as well.


heavily contested left landed layup followed by missed open putback
contested left handed layup
blocked shot under the rim
contested left handed layup falling away
heavil contested driving layup
https://youtu.be/zN4Os752HFU?si=JWIeifsKbmenFEfj&t=2161 missed open left handed driving layup
https://youtu.be/zN4Os752HFU?si=FY_epWLYxWMoIInP&t=2509 blocked layup along the baseline
https://youtu.be/zN4Os752HFU?si=acsGuQ-_BbK7f-J4&t=2545 blocked driving layup
https://youtu.be/zN4Os752HFU?si=8bCtpqrpfDnxMXrw&t=2670 contested driving left landed layup
https://youtu.be/zN4Os752HFU?si=aRnZI2U9HDznt22o&t=2914 missed open push shot
https://youtu.be/zN4Os752HFU?si=QBB5lVqgUNTR8yEH&t=3048 missed lightly contested layup followed by missed tip shot
https://youtu.be/zN4Os752HFU?si=uiaq5siBAEZ6I4_d&t=3164 missed contested falling away shot at rim
https://youtu.be/zN4Os752HFU?si=j-GKOxW5NS55xfFg&t=3553 missed contested driving left landed layup
https://youtu.be/zN4Os752HFU?si=_YZ0EU2XAUGUMvs6&t=3949 heavily contested blocked layup
https://youtu.be/zN4Os752HFU?si=Qe6glG6fbbzc6Dn2&t=4243 out of control driving layup followed by miss tip shot
https://youtu.be/zN4Os752HFU?si=eQHTKVRQg__5na5x&t=4318 blocked driving layup
 
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Yall love to find some coaching issues…..we made 8 layups and didn’t rebound….thats pretty much it…..as for TA…..Reese said some things to the fans that TA didn’t think was very tasteful.
I’m concerned that anyone close to the team would think the loss is that simple. Hummel was pretty shocked the whole second half the Illini didn’t adapt to what Maryland was running in the paint. Brad called 2 timeouts the entire game with the 2nd timeout with more than 8 minutes left. It felt as if the staff wasn’t even trying to win the game, and were content to roll the ball out then take a seat.

All in all, the staff has exceeded my expectations for this year with or without Shannon, but Brad’s biggest weakness from years past continues to present itself.
 
#150      

JSpence

Evansville, IN
I’m concerned that anyone close to the team would think the loss is that simple. Hummel was pretty shocked the whole second half the Illini didn’t adapt to what Maryland was running in the paint. Brad called 2 timeouts the entire game with the 2nd timeout with more than 8 minutes left. It felt as if the staff wasn’t even trying to win the game, and were content to roll the ball out then take a seat.

All in all, the staff has exceeded my expectations for this year with or without Shannon, but Brad’s biggest weakness from years past continues to present itself.
Fair. That's what confidence is. I want our staff to understand that element well and to have a bit themselves. The sincere optimism, though, has hurt more than helped lately. I'll grant 10 minutes of optimism to any coach under most circumstances. And to Brad? 15 minutes. Hell, make it 20 this year. But sticking with something for 30+ minutes of a 40-minute regulation after seeing it turn on you is just ASKING to lose.

Have a plan B. If we aren't having a top-10 day, don't make it a top-200 day by trying to force it.
 
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