This tells a lot. Great pieces that probably mean we'll be in every game. But no superstar probably makes a longer tourney run more of a challenge. I don't have evidence to back that up but my gut tells me that there's going to be a game or two where you just need an unstoppable guy. I just don't think AS gets to that level. Mirk actually might.
Rebounding will be the toughest thing for the new guards to replicate.
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Great work. I just spot checked Duke. The last time they returned was 1992. Nothing easy about repeating.As bona fide Final Four contenders after actually making it last year, I wanted to see how rare making it in back-to-back years. I was thinking it would be super rare historically, but it’s happened a surprising number of times since 2000! I’m on my phone, so I even could have missed one or two examples, lol.
UConn - 2023 & 2024
North Carolina - 2016 & 2017
Wisconsin - 2014 & 2015
Kentucky - 2014 & 2015
Louisville - 2012 & 2013
Kentucky - 2011 & 2012
Butler - 2010 & 2011
Michigan State - 2009 & 2010
North Carolina - 2008 & 2009
UCLA - 2006, 2007 & 2008
Florida - 2006 & 2007
Kansas - 2002 & 2003
Maryland - 2001 & 2002
Michigan State - 2000 & 2001
I’d guess those teams had super good retention … let’s go get the job done this time!
Pretty notable given the ridiculous level of talent they've had over that period.Great work. I just spot checked Duke. The last time they returned was 1992. Nothing easy about repeating.
I think that’s why it’s difficult for them to return to the Final Four the following year — those great teams lose players to the NBA draft.Pretty notable given the ridiculous level of talent they've had over that period.
Some of these teams ended up winning it all the follow year excluding Florida and UConn who ended up as repeat champs.As bona fide Final Four contenders after actually making it last year, I wanted to see how rare making it in back-to-back years. I was thinking it would be super rare historically, but it’s happened a surprising number of times since 2000! I’m on my phone, so I even could have missed one or two examples, lol.
UConn - 2023 & 2024
North Carolina - 2016 & 2017
Wisconsin - 2014 & 2015
Kentucky - 2014 & 2015
Louisville - 2012 & 2013
Kentucky - 2011 & 2012
Butler - 2010 & 2011
Michigan State - 2009 & 2010
North Carolina - 2008 & 2009
UCLA - 2006, 2007 & 2008
Florida - 2006 & 2007
Kansas - 2002 & 2003
Maryland - 2001 & 2002
Michigan State - 2000 & 2001
I’d guess those teams had super good retention … let’s go get the job done this time!
Yes, most likelySo with Dre back, is are we done adding players?
The missed the tournament prevalence is a bit shocking. Wow.With Andrej back, we'll be the 8th Final Four team since 2020 to return over 50% of their minutes. Here is how the other teams fared. Not much to take away really. Kind of a mixed bag.
2025 Purdue
54% of minutes returned
Sweet 16
2025 Alabama
51% of minutes returned
Elite Eight
2024 FAU
90% of minutes returned
First round
2024 Miami
54% of minutes returned
Missed the tournament
2023 Villanova
65% of minutes returned
Missed the tournament
2023 UNC
73% of minutes returned
Missed the tournament
2022 UCLA
91% of minutes returned
Sweet 16
Not sure I'd call this a mixed bag...each of these teams fell well short of their FF performance the previous yearWith Andrej back, we'll be the 8th Final Four team since 2020 to return over 50% of their minutes. Here is how the other teams fared. Not much to take away really. Kind of a mixed bag.
2025 Purdue
54% of minutes returned
Sweet 16
2025 Alabama
51% of minutes returned
Elite Eight
2024 FAU
90% of minutes returned
First round
2024 Miami
54% of minutes returned
Missed the tournament
2023 Villanova
65% of minutes returned
Missed the tournament
2023 UNC
73% of minutes returned
Missed the tournament
2022 UCLA
91% of minutes returned
Sweet 16
There is a lot to take from that.With Andrej back, we'll be the 8th Final Four team since 2020 to return over 50% of their minutes. Here is how the other teams fared. Not much to take away really. Kind of a mixed bag.
2025 Purdue
54% of minutes returned
Sweet 16
2025 Alabama
51% of minutes returned
Elite Eight
2024 FAU
90% of minutes returned
First round
2024 Miami
54% of minutes returned
Missed the tournament
2023 Villanova
65% of minutes returned
Missed the tournament
2023 UNC
73% of minutes returned
Missed the tournament
2022 UCLA
91% of minutes returned
Sweet 16
I'd take Purdue's season in a heartbeat. Would mark our 5th banner in 7 years. Not often a program gets to do that.With Andrej back, we'll be the 8th Final Four team since 2020 to return over 50% of their minutes. Here is how the other teams fared. Not much to take away really. Kind of a mixed bag.
2025 Purdue
54% of minutes returned
Sweet 16
2025 Alabama
51% of minutes returned
Elite Eight
2024 FAU
90% of minutes returned
First round
2024 Miami
54% of minutes returned
Missed the tournament
2023 Villanova
65% of minutes returned
Missed the tournament
2023 UNC
73% of minutes returned
Missed the tournament
2022 UCLA
91% of minutes returned
Sweet 16
Not that I disagree with some of this, but, if we apply this to last year at this time most would have been absolutely incorrect. The over all consensus of the board is that Tomi would be great and better than he was in 2024. Stoj would be killing it, and nobody thought KW would be our leading scorer.You're definitely not thinking that through. Sure it COULD happen, but we're referring to likelihood.
The number was 30.2 points. So we're saying each gets 15? Or... Vaaks 18 and Coleman 12?
Absolutely those guys are capable, but the question becomes whose points are you taking down? Mirk? Stoj? Tomi?
There's one ball. Only so many baskets to go around.
It's what happens every off-season when we bring in quality newcomers. People quickly rush to the shiny new toy, but forget about the most important part, which are the returners. Looking at our scoring rates from last year, the two obvious scoring alphas are Stojakovic are Mirkovic (especially Stojakovic). Vaaks could work himself into that, since he'll play a ton.
I personally, would be pleasantly surprised if Stojakovic isn't the leading scorer. He's pretty clearly the most proven guy amongst the group -- just natural scoring talent. Mirk will likely be that 14/10/4 guy whose impact on the team is significantly more than the points.
yeah.... basketball is hard. This makes me scared. But, for now.......Not sure I'd call this a mixed bag...each of these teams fell well short of their FF performance the previous year