Illini Football 2023

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altgeld88

Arlington, Virginia
Thanks. It is indeed a gem. It's a travesty that it (and Ohio Stadium) doesn't have National Historic Landmark status, while Cal's stadium does.

I chuckled, however, at the hills on the western horizon in that sketch of the stadium at the article's opening. I regularly admired that view from the east balcony long ago (and most recently last summer) and don't recall such landforms. :ROFLMAO: Maybe a gentle rise on the way out toward Monticello but not much more.
 
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Thanks. It is indeed a gem. It's a travesty that it (and Ohio Stadium) doesn't have National Historic Landmark status, while Cal's stadium does.

I chuckled, however, at the hills on the western horizon in that sketch of the stadium at the article's opening. I regularly admired that view from the east balcony long ago (and most recently last summer) and don't recall such landforms. :ROFLMAO: Maybe a gentle rise on the way out toward Monticello but not much more.
Semi-OT, but I was thinking the other day that for Champaign having this reputation (even among our fans) of being in the absolute depths of the flattest region of the Corn Belt, the community has a remarkable number of trees and pretty good landscaping. I mean, Grange Grove almost looks like an actual GROVE here!!

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Absolutely no hills, though. :ROFLMAO:

P.S. Put me in the camp that we should actually put some more trees IN Grange Grove rather than have it be a completely functional, utilitarian and flat plane of grass. Would it provide a few more logistical problems and be less frigidly logical? Sure. But it could develop into something with as much character as THE Grove at Ole Miss in time.
 
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Anyone heard of any type of celebration for the 100 year annivarsary?
 
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Joel Goodson

dawgville
Semi-OT, but I was thinking the other day that for Champaign having this reputation (even among our fans) of being in the absolute depths of the flattest region of the Corn Belt, the community has a remarkable number of trees and pretty good landscaping. I mean, Grange Grove almost looks like an actual GROVE here!!

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Absolutely no hills, though. :ROFLMAO:

P.S. Put me in the camp that we should actually put some more trees IN Grange Grove rather than have it be a completely functional, utilitarian and flat plane of grass. Would it provide a few more logistical problems and be less frigidly logical? Sure. But it could develop into something with as much character as THE Grove at Ole Miss in time.

adding more trees is always the right answer
 
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Semi-OT, but I was thinking the other day that for Champaign having this reputation (even among our fans) of being in the absolute depths of the flattest region of the Corn Belt, the community has a remarkable number of trees and pretty good landscaping. I mean, Grange Grove almost looks like an actual GROVE here!!

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Absolutely no hills, though. :ROFLMAO:

P.S. Put me in the camp that we should actually put some more trees IN Grange Grove rather than have it be a completely functional, utilitarian and flat plane of grass. Would it provide a few more logistical problems and be less frigidly logical? Sure. But it could develop into something with as much character as THE Grove at Ole Miss in time.
I realized after I posted this that I forgot to include a picture of THE Grove in Oxford, MS for those who have never seen it:

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I understand that due to topography and longer winters, such a vibe might not be possible for us ... but we could get something in the ballpark. Having trees scattered throughout Grange Grove would really provide an immersive and (more importantly) unique-within-the-Big-Ten experience for all visitors to Memorial Stadium.
 
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Mr. Tibbs

southeast DuPage
one of my sons went to Ole Miss 10 years ago
the main difference is their tailgating occurs on our equivalent of the Quad. they have fairly large areas amongst campus with lots of trees and some open spaces. its not occurring right next to their stadium , which is about a 3-4 block walk away. Down there, tailgating is taken to a WHOLE 'NOTHER LEVEL and is done by EVERYONE . there is nothing close to it anywhere in this country that I am aware of.

down there, they would use ALL available public spaces - like we should use all grass land in the six pack dorms if they were to critique our deal
those spaces are all "rented" out. its a huge money maker


we do need more LARGE trees brought in for Grange Grove. Ive been saying this for 10 years. Its not rocket science . Large trees can be brought in by tree moving trucks for 1500-2000 each. pocket change for the DIA .
 
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Will 2nd Tibbs. The tailgate at Ole Miss is second to none.
 
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I realized after I posted this that I forgot to include a picture of THE Grove in Oxford, MS for those who have never seen it:

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I understand that due to topography and longer winters, such a vibe might not be possible for us ... but we could get something in the ballpark. Having trees scattered throughout Grange Grove would really provide an immersive and (more importantly) unique-within-the-Big-Ten experience for all visitors to Memorial Stadium.
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This page from the campus landscape master plan shows what Grange Grove, southwest parking lots and the fields west of the stadium are proposed to look like. If this actually happens it would address a lot of what everyone is talking about.
 
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redwingillini11

White and Sixth
North Aurora
This week's bowl projection round up is not so fun.

(ESPN Projections)
Guaranteed Rate Bowl
Chase Field (Phoenix)
9 p.m., ESPN and the ESPN App

Bonagura: Illinois vs. TCU

Bad Boy Mowers Pinstripe Bowl
Yankee Stadium (New York)
2:15 p.m., ESPN and the ESPN App

Schlabach: Pitt vs. Illinois

Quick Lane Bowl Logo

Quick Lane Bowl
Dec. 26 •
Detroit, MI
Illinois Logo

Illinois
-12
Ohio Logo

Ohio

CBS: None

Pinstripe Bowl (Dec. 28)​

Tie-In: ACC vs. Big Ten

Projection: Wake Forest vs. Illinois

Duke’s Mayo Bowl​

Wednesday, December 27, 2023
5:30 pm ET, ESPN
Bank of America Stadium, Charlotte, NC
Bowl Ties: ACC vs Big Ten
Bowl Projection
Pitt vs Illinois


Guaranteed Bowl

Projected matchup
: Illinois vs. TCU

The Illini took one on the chin at Kansas Thursday night for their first loss while the Horned Frogs bounced back from an embarrassing opener defensively with a much better showing against Nicholls. Neither of these teams is going to finish near the top of their respective standings, but should get to six wins and back to the postseason.

Saturday Tradition: None
 
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Illinir1

Camdenton, MO
When will the September 23rd kickoff time vs. FAU be announced?
 
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This week's bowl projection round up is not so fun.

(ESPN Projections)
Guaranteed Rate Bowl
Chase Field (Phoenix)
9 p.m., ESPN and the ESPN App

Bonagura: Illinois vs. TCU

Bad Boy Mowers Pinstripe Bowl
Yankee Stadium (New York)
2:15 p.m., ESPN and the ESPN App

Schlabach: Pitt vs. Illinois

Quick Lane Bowl Logo

Quick Lane Bowl
Dec. 26 •
Detroit, MI
Illinois Logo

Illinois
-12
Ohio Logo

Ohio

CBS: None

Pinstripe Bowl (Dec. 28)​

Tie-In: ACC vs. Big Ten

Projection: Wake Forest vs. Illinois

Duke’s Mayo Bowl​

Wednesday, December 27, 2023
5:30 pm ET, ESPN
Bank of America Stadium, Charlotte, NC
Bowl Ties: ACC vs Big Ten
Bowl Projection
Pitt vs Illinois


Guaranteed Bowl

Projected matchup
: Illinois vs. TCU

The Illini took one on the chin at Kansas Thursday night for their first loss while the Horned Frogs bounced back from an embarrassing opener defensively with a much better showing against Nicholls. Neither of these teams is going to finish near the top of their respective standings, but should get to six wins and back to the postseason.

Saturday Tradition: None
Atleast we’re still in the conversation for a bowl game. 6-6 or 7-5 is kind of what I’m hoping for this year. Keep the momentum going and consistent winning seasons.
 
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jjv0004

Greenville, SC
Serious question. Illinois football sucked for many years until last years team. Brett clearly turned things around and the recruiting right now seems pretty good. This season not starting off well and be surprised if they win more than 6 games.

So, if you are a good football coach, what should be expected of you? One good season every 4-5 years or sustained success? Not saying he isn't the right guy so don't start pounding me. I realize he needs some time. My question is what should we expect from him and the program going forward? If this year and next year are back to 500 or below, are you fine with that?
 
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Serious question. Illinois football sucked for many years until last years team. Brett clearly turned things around and the recruiting right now seems pretty good. This season not starting off well and be surprised if they win more than 6 games.

So, if you are a good football coach, what should be expected of you? One good season every 4-5 years or sustained success? Not saying he isn't the right guy so don't start pounding me. I realize he needs some time. My question is what should we expect from him and the program going forward? If this year and next year are back to 500 or below, are you fine with that?
Not to be negative, but with the addition of 4 pac10 schools, 2 of which are elite. And 2 that are better than average, my gut feeling is that over .500 seasons are unfortunately going to be hard to come by for us without a seismic shift. It's why I think this year is so important for momentum and recruiting as when you look at the schedule we have this year, it's an absolute cakewalk compared to what's coming. Assuming a 9 game B10 schedule, this is what we pretty much know based on what has been said:

1. OSU- fixed
2. Purdue - fixed
3. Northwestern - fixed
4. Likely Oregon or USC
5. Likely UCLA or Washington

The other 4 games will likely include at least 2 regional rivals (Wisky, Iowa, Minn, Ind, Neb) to help with travel and at most 2 randos. How I see it, that's going to be a tough schedule most years.

So here on out considering nothing dynamically changes, a good coach at Illinois could probably expect an over .500 season maybe once every 2 or 3 years on average in my opinion. I know that's not what we want to hear, but better than a 4-5 record in the B10 to come would have to be considered a really great year by our standards. Just doesn't leave much room for error with non-con scheduling to get to .500
 
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Serious question. Illinois football sucked for many years until last years team. Brett clearly turned things around and the recruiting right now seems pretty good. This season not starting off well and be surprised if they win more than 6 games.

So, if you are a good football coach, what should be expected of you? One good season every 4-5 years or sustained success? Not saying he isn't the right guy so don't start pounding me. I realize he needs some time. My question is what should we expect from him and the program going forward? If this year and next year are back to 500 or below, are you fine with that?
I don’t think it’s as clear cut as wins and losses and the goal posts move when you have a good season and good rosters.

That being said I don’t think it’s too high a bar to go from a bowl every 5 years to missing a bowl every 5 years. But that’s my personal opinion.

Missing a bowl game the next couple seasons isn’t a death sentence in my opinion, but there better be some good excuses behind it.
 
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Pretty impressive that our Friday night game on ESPN2 (!) outdrew Utah/Baylor on Saturday on ESPN AND UCLA on Saturday on CBS! It also goes (once again) to show how valuable it is to get off of BTN, as we outdrew Ohio State just because of what channel we were on. Interesting to compare it to the other ESPN2 games...

1.44 million for #20 Ole Miss at #24 Tulane (Saturday at 2:30 pm)
1.36 million for Illinois at Kansas (Friday at 6:30 pm)
294k for Purdue at Virginia Tech (Saturday at 11:00 am)

JMO, but that is an impressive rating for a Friday night on ESPN2. I will be really curious to see how PSU/Illinois does ratings-wise. This is our competition for the 11:00 am CST timeslot:

FOX: #7 Penn State at Illinois
ABC: #3 Florida State at Boston College
ESPN: #14 LSU at Mississippi State
ESPN2: Wake Forest at Old Dominion
BTN: Louisville vs. Indiana (Indianapolis, IN) or Georgia Southern at Wisconsin
FS1: North Dakota State at Boise State
SEC Network: #15 Kansas State at Missouri
CBSSN: Liberty at Buffalo
ESPNU: Iowa State at Ohio

We probably won't match CU/Nebraska's incredibly impressive 8.73 million from last week or Colorado/TCU's 7.26 million from the week before, but we should still draw a great audience given the lack of competition in that timeslot, a relatively big Illinois fan base and an absolutely massive PSU one. Point is that a lot of eyes will be on the Illini and Champaign!
 
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