Illini in the Pros (Basketball)

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Mobi
I agree about them wanting to keep Ayo based on his role flexibility, which by the way is the biggest thing scouts failed to appreciate about him in the draft. His role was scoring-focused at Illinois because that's what the team needed, but he always had complimentary skills (Billy Donovan understood that immediately)

But then that's another expensive long term deals, which Minny already has with not just Ant, Gobert and Julius Randle, but Naz Reid and Jaden McDaniels too.

TSJ is cheap, which is valuable to Minny, but affordable depth elsewhere is probably more valuable to them.

Just spitballing, but the Bulls may be hiring some of Minny's braintrust shortly

Tre Jones and Isaac Okoro for Donte DiVincenzo (expiring), TSJ and picks?

Tre Jones is a solid player on a really good contract the Bulls have no use for, finding a buyer should be a priority this offseason, and Jones and Okoro are quality flexible vets that would give them much better depth, especially with Mike Conley and Bones Hyland leaving.

To what extent that last year of DiVincenzo is an asset versus a liability heavily depends on exactly when he'll be back, which is probably unknowable today, but the Bulls would (should) be happy to just eat the money for cap flexibility and future assets.
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The suggested trade is very Bulls centric. From Wolves's perspective, they don't need to trade a cheap better taller player to two shorter worse more expensive players. They already have two serviceable backup guards in Clark and Hyland. You might argue Tre can play PG if Wolves lose Ayo. Personally I don't like short PG who doesn't shoot three well in NBA. I rather use Conely cheap as the backup PG. Wolves may need a starting PG if they lose Ayo but Tre is not the answer.
 
#702      
Scoregasm
Tell me you never watched any of Terrence's college tape without telling me you never watched any of Terrence's college tape
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Tell me you're lazy and don't know how to coach etc., etc....
 
#704      
Calvin
I don't watch a lot of NBA, but when I do, it's a shock how much more physically developed the players are after getting used to the college game.
 
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rbse
The announcer had a very Dakich-like moment saying “I think they sub out Shannon here” right before he knocks down the 3. Lmao, eat it.
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Dakich, wow, not only do I not miss him, it made me feel ill when you mentioned his name
 
#706      
rbse
Terrence and Ayo, gives you goose bumps doesn't it
 
#707      
Rich
NarrowJ said:
Watching TJ cook an NBA All-Star for an And-1 inside of 2 minutes in a close elimination playoff game

Jack Nicholson Yes GIF
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Murray is getting so bad he needs to leak nudes again to stay relevant
 
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ChiefGritty
IlliniwekKDR said:
Tell me you never watched any of Terrence's college tape without telling me you never watched any of Terrence's college tape
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I mean, he played off the catch from the wing a lot in college, increasingly so as Domask became a more conventional PG as that season went along, and did so very well.

But his superpower is open floor finishing, and in the NBA you can create "open" floors out of half court situations, and unlocking that is TSJ's highest calling in the NBA.

Microwave second unit scorer in the Jamal Crawford mold, that's the idea. But with Ant flanked by Ayo that role is kind of already spoken for.

#FreeTSJ
 
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the juiceman cometh
ChiefGritty said:
I mean, he played off the catch from the wing a lot in college, increasingly so as Domask became a more conventional PG as that season went along, and did so very well.

But his superpower is open floor finishing, and in the NBA you can create "open" floors out of half court situations, and unlocking that is TSJ's highest calling in the NBA.

Microwave second unit scorer in the Jamal Crawford mold, that's the idea. But with Ant flanked by Ayo that role is kind of already spoken for.

#FreeTSJ
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Exactly. What Finch is saying can also be translated as "During the season we needed someone to play off ball, out on the corner, and create space for Ant. That's not the optimal role for TSJ. TSJ needs the ball in his hands, which he got tonight because of injuries."

Realistically, this doesn't change how Finch uses TSJ long term. Even though he knows the role TSJ excels in, he's not going to use him in that role when everyone is healthy because he doesn't need him for that. Time for an amicable divorce.
 
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NarrowJ
ChiefGritty said:
I mean, he played off the catch from the wing a lot in college, increasingly so as Domask became a more conventional PG as that season went along, and did so very well.

But his superpower is open floor finishing, and in the NBA you can create "open" floors out of half court situations, and unlocking that is TSJ's highest calling in the NBA.

Microwave second unit scorer in the Jamal Crawford mold, that's the idea. But with Ant flanked by Ayo that role is kind of already spoken for.

#FreeTSJ
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Imagine him on last year's or this year's Illinois team with the spacing :oops:
 
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foby
alexander58 said:
Like many that follow on here, I want to see the former Illini succeed in the pros, but watching the wolves religiously since Ayo joined, I have been impressed with Finch as a coach. I love Ant as a player, but like most A list players, he’s a handful. That’s where coaches earn their money. In a world where many think the NBA plays no defense (watch closer) I also noticed Shannon struggles on defense at times. Defending on the switches is really difficult considering illegal screens are mostly ignored by officials.I imagine it takes time. It’s no different than Podz playing time situation as a freshman . Some think Underwood should have played Podz more. There aren’t many things easier in this world than second guessing coaches. JMHO
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I was commenting based only on the text of the tweet.
 
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