As long as this thing is dragging out, wonder which will end up costing more in the end - the renovation or the investigations and legal fees??
Illini Women's Basketball Allegations
As long as this thing is dragging out, wonder which will end up costing more in the end - the renovation or the investigations and legal fees??
Sorry, but you aren't living in the real world. What would your grounds be for firing MT without a significant financial settlement? Like it or not "fairness" for the AD, the WBB's basketball coach and the soccer coach really has nothing to do with it other than from a legal perspective. I'd like all of this to go away ASAP, but what you want to be done and what can be done aren't always in sync. It would be a LOT easier to fire Bollant, Beckman and Thomas based on the on-field/court performances, but not now. That window has closed and may open again, but not before a lot of other issues are closed.
Ransom Stoddard
Ordained Dudeist Priest
- Bloomington, IL
If the university ever wants to be able to hire a competent coach in the future, they absolutely have to show fairness. It will be very hard to attract solid coaching candidates if the institution shows a "ready, fire, aim" mentality when issues arise. Any athlete who doesn't like their coach would just be able to make accusations and the coach wouldn't have recourse.
And I'm not saying there isn't anything to this--in fact I agree with you that letting the assistant go indicates more fire than smoke, but due process rather than emotional reaction is imperative in situations like this. Lets find out who knew what, when they knew it, and what they did about it before sticking their heads on a pike in front of the Union.
Totally agree. Its not easy as fans to have patience, but we aren't dictating the process
Other than the offhand racially charged remarks made by Mike Dbivliss, who has already been deservedly let go, everything that has been alleged by our players will continue unabated regardless of who is the AD and who is the coach. This stuff is universal in college sports.
Berating players, pressuring players to play through injuries they shouldn't be playing through, being abusive and disrespectful to players who the coaches want to quit the team, or just in general, dangling players scholarships over their heads in order to manipulate them against their own interests, generally just treating players like property, not giving a damn about the well being of any dissenters, and prioritizing winning over everything else.
Sports is not a nice business.
Pretty sure Bollant has landed 2 African American players since this has come out. So to answer your question, the answer seems to be yes.
What do the African American assistant coaches on staff have to say about all of this?
You better believe it.
And the segregation was not based on color. Chasing off all the former coaches players is something that's done fairly commonly, especially in basketball, and Groce accomplished the same result, just with (seemingly, from the outside) considerably more tact.
All that other stuff was Divilbiss.
I wouldn't still be on the staff if I was African American and these things were happening, I can tell you that much. And they choosing to stay it seems like
Not really, Jacqui Grant was the prize of Bollant's first recruiting class. A starter, & one the best players on the team. She is part of the suit & also referred to verbal racial assaults when he transferred.
Well, that's an approach.
Ransom Stoddard
Ordained Dudeist Priest
- Bloomington, IL
The investigation has barely begun. All we have right now are allegations.
And yes, due process is necessary. If a guy gets fired and it turns out he didn't do what he was fired for he's going to sue. For a LOT. Those deep pocket cigar smoking donors don't want that, they want this to be investigated first, then roll heads if necessary.
Let me repeat--right now there has been no investigation, meaning that there is no proof, that any of this happened in the way the players claim it did. I'm not saying we won't find out that they're telling the truth I'm saying this HAS to follow proper procedure in order to avoid a) litigation in the case that the claims are baseless; and b) comply with all necessary guidelines when terminating an employee of the state in a high-profile job.
That rarely turns out well.
I know there are a lot of statements making it look like Bollant is guilty (and a few stating otherwise) but can we all remember that we live in a society where people are innocent until proven guilty?
I mean, I know this is a forum so we are speculating, but I don't think a few of the posters here realize that Bollant is innocent as of right now (and that's what we want).
If you want to speculate, it might be appropriate to say "If he is proven guilty" as it's not always implied by the statements some people are putting on here.
Just my .02.
I mean, I know this is a forum so we are speculating, but I don't think a few of the posters here realize that Bollant is innocent as of right now (and that's what we want).
If you want to speculate, it might be appropriate to say "If he is proven guilty" as it's not always implied by the statements some people are putting on here.
Just my .02.
Which is meaningless of course. I am going to write a letter to a Senator saying he should resign and it will have the same impact.
DennyCrane
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You are dead wrong on many points, but I will simply share the following article where a incoming freshman women's basketball player's father shares his opinion - yes, he is african american, and yes, he did his own investigation into this matter, and yes, his daughter is still going to Illinois this fall.
http://www.news-gazette.com/sports/...-07-02/freshman-father-react-allegations.html
DennyCrane
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The Office of Diversity, Equity and Access on campus investigated the women's basketball claims after the season and found no violations of Title IX, Title IV or any University policies. This was widely reported.
DennyCrane
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Heels, not heals. Perhaps there is long term impact, but again, you are saying fire everyone just because people are making allegations. That's not really smart management, and when people like ADs and coaches have contracts, there must be a reason to fire them "for cause" unless someone wants to pony up every bit of their contracts plus damages that would come from more lawsuits filed by these employees if nothing is proven.
DennyCrane
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Jacqui Grant's stepdaddy was upset that she was no longer the center of the team's offense once Chatrice White established herself midway through this past season - White's freshman year. It was all Grant two years ago and this year it shifted and Grosecki went nuts.
illinifaninwi
- DeForest, Wisconsin
It's a well written letter. Honestly I couldn't be any more confused on what the real story of these allegations truly is. I'm hoping for the best but it's hard to believe this many players would make up something that elaborate.
