illiniCA
- DC Area
It’s the end of Jan… this is the time of year most freshman start seeing the court bc they’ve learned to play college defense. I expect the freshman to play more the remainder of the season
Illinois 59, Northwestern 56 Postgame
I am not sure but the commentators said earlier in the game that flop warnings couldn’t be given on the offensive end.
The flip warning needs to go. If a ref knows what a flop is then don’t call the foul and play on. And if you don’t know what a flop is good luck.
Since we have the flop warning Davidson should have a permanent one
Same with Nebby in tonight's game against Rutgers
I think they reviewed it and concluded there was no flop on Plummer. He literally didn't even fall lol.
I think Bardo was wrong though, of course you can get a flop warning on offense.
Wow...I could not be more in agreement. Do what you can easily do...no need to be Ray Rice at the rim....or Frankie Williams with the ball...when you are 6'10".
Not sure it really got in his head. His D intensity is great, and expectedly depletes his O...he is a warrior.
I was kinda glad that he didn't try to force anything during the chants.
Frazier played 40 mins and was great in D, but he had a really bad day on offense. Not saying they totally got to him, but the NW crowd definitely being loud and only when Trent had the ball, definitely made our offense struggle.
I call it: Mr. and Mrs. Collins chili.
Liability no. Bad day on offense though.
Here is my thought about the referees in basketball:
Reffing this game is an impossible task. If you don't believe me, try putting a whistle in your mouth, go out on the court, run around and try to make instantaneous decisions. You can't blow the whistle--and then reconsider. Seriously, try it.
There are almost always going to be horrible calls. They may cost you a game. They may help you win a game. Either way, you have no control, and just need to accept them as part of the game.
Reffing this game is an impossible task. If you don't believe me, try putting a whistle in your mouth, go out on the court, run around and try to make instantaneous decisions. You can't blow the whistle--and then reconsider. Seriously, try it.
There are almost always going to be horrible calls. They may cost you a game. They may help you win a game. Either way, you have no control, and just need to accept them as part of the game.
DeonThomas
- South Carolina
Totally serious. Attended 200+ Illini games over the years. Sorta standard/normal.
Thoroughly enjoyed it. A typical NW game at Welsh-Ryan. Great crowd. Great atmosphere. Refs were fair to both teams.
Ransom Stoddard
Ordained Dudeist Priest
- Bloomington, IL
I don't disagree with this in theory, but in practice a ref really needs to know what a flop is before they call one. The call on Plummer was ridiculous, and the one on Podz was at best a no-call, at worst an offensive foul.
The missed double dribble just evened things out. On a timeout when they were showing a Northwestern 3, the guy bringing up the ball clearly double dribbled before passing the ball to the shooter.
I always appreciate your perspective. You seem to bring things back to reality.
illini80
- Forgottonia
I used to complain to the refs more than I should when I was coaching my kids teams. Then there were a few games the refs couldn't make it for various reasons so I got to do the job. Yep, it's harder than it looks. Everyone knew I was the coach and volunteered to ref so we could play the game and I had people bitching at me the whole time. I walked over and offered the whistle to one guy and he finally shut up.
skyIdub
Winged Warrior
They literally have rules, procedures, and years of experience. And eyes. And brains. I'm assuming.
He had some awesome moments tonight! He still isn't an offensive threat but his heart is ten sizes bigger than he is! The young man is a fighter! I-L-L baby!
I agree. They are professionals. They should be 100x better than an average fan or peewee league ref. And it is fine for us to expect them to be. They will never be perfect, but they should at least be good all the time and great much of the time.
I think there were three ridiculously bad calls in a row today when Bardo finally started to get on the refs. Three bad calls in a row is inexcusable for professionals, IMO.
We won't get anything better unless we expect that it can be better.
If you stop the other team from scoring, you provide value.
Glad somebody else noticed this, thought maybe I was having a pruman moment... Lol. Thought it was funny how they picked such a blatant missed call to set up a highlight play for Northwestern.
Certainly couldn't tell that from what the TV cameras showed. They were obsessed with those goofy, nerdy NW fans.Agreed, but I want to record this for posterity as someone who just left Evanston … might have honestly been pushing 75-80% Illini fans.
How many things can you do in life where 50% of the people think you got it right and 50% think you got it wrong. It‘s a ridiculously difficult job, where thing happen really fast.