Sorry typing error, meant TJ
Illinois 74, Colgate 57 Postgame
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Just an observation and honest question. I know we utilize the portal (and typically well at that), but I love young player development and loyalty more than anything. I just get invested in players like Trent Frazier. Love it when young guys are motivated and understand the process. Thankfully, Underwood is in charge and has proven to adjust as needed, but I love our young talent and want to keep them.
I know we utilize the portal (and typically well at that), but I love young player development and loyalty... I love our young talent and want to keep them.
There will always be a certain amount of disconnect between how Illini Nation views the Illini program and how players look at it. Especially with the Portal and needing to re-recruit your entire roster every season.
I-Nation looks at the Illini as THE place to be. Here and no other. Many players are going to look at the Illini as a good place to play ball... for the moment. But thatās OK because the players who are here do want to be here, at least for the duration of the season. And they are always wanting to do the best for themselves so they will do the best for the team.
There are those certain guys we could all name who do love the Illini program for what it is and want to be here and nowhere else. Those are the really special guys. But the days of having an entire team of those guys is likely not going to happen.
College Ball in ways is big business. But as long as the Illini can maintain a more personal and team-family atmostphere and keep a good coaching staff (and NIL of course)... that will be a big selling point for ballers.
Honest question and this is not to dog on CH. Nobody has a problem with him shooting 23% on the year from behind the ark?
He averages 4 a game, while Goode on the year is our best 3pt shooter and only averages 5 on the year.
He also averages 2.5 turnovers a game.
Dain on the other hand is averaging the same amount of points in 13 less minutes a game. I just donāt see how CH deserves 27mpg while chucking up 23% from the field and averaging 2.5 TO a game.
Make it make sense. Does BU play favorites? Recipe for disaster come March I can already see it.
CH 2-9. 1-6 3PA and a loss come March.
Rant over, Happy Holidays and God bless.
He averages 4 a game, while Goode on the year is our best 3pt shooter and only averages 5 on the year.
He also averages 2.5 turnovers a game.
Dain on the other hand is averaging the same amount of points in 13 less minutes a game. I just donāt see how CH deserves 27mpg while chucking up 23% from the field and averaging 2.5 TO a game.
Make it make sense. Does BU play favorites? Recipe for disaster come March I can already see it.
CH 2-9. 1-6 3PA and a loss come March.
Rant over, Happy Holidays and God bless.
Tell me you donāt know basketball without telling me you donāt know basketballā¦.just look at the +/- when Coleman is on the court vs Dain.
Way more to it than just scoring the basketball
There is a reason Dainja has only averaged 6 minutes in our 3 games against t15 teams. He's terrible and his ppg is inflated from cupcakes
Maybe, if shooting percentages are all you are interested in... This team's identity is on defense, and Coleman is one of the most impactful defensive players in the conference. Dain, well.... is not. Dain turns the ball over at a nearly identical rate per minute and doesn't handle the ball nearly as much. I thought Coleman played extremely well all around yesterday.
Goode needs to shoot more. I think I saw BU telling him that during the second half yesterday when he passed on a fairly open look.
If you want it to make sense pay attention to the way opposing teams guard us when Coleman is in the game versus Dain.
No, nobody has mentioned this before.
At this point I'd be giving Amani minutes over Dain. Dain is a bum slayer and has zero defensive acumen. We can't feed the post well enough anyways to make him useful.
I thought Coleman played very well other than 3 offensive possessions where he mentally shut off and forced bad shots. This isn't counting the bad shot forced by the shot clock. The bad shots were: In the first half, a Frazier style, long, on the run, 3; During the 2nd half drought, two hero ball attempts (he wasn't the only culprit in that stretch). I agree he needs to shoot 3s for our offense. If he drops the 1 (or 2) running 3 shots per game that he never makes, his 3pt percentage, and thus his NBA chances, go way up.
You might want to duck.
I'd like to see coleman shoot 1-2 less of the 3s per game (he take 1-2 rushed or off dribble ones needlessly). Other than that wouldn't change much
In terms of player impact he's the best for def efficiency and 2nd best for offense. There was a good table on this in one of the 23-24 threads. In this very thread there's a post from the same source (hoop informatics) showing he again was one of the most impactful on both sides of the ball this game
I don't remember exactly what the original post said and am too lazy to go back but maybe Pruitt was just messing with the person. Maybe he is aware of the Illini's bad FT shooting and knows he was not particularly good at it either so he just made a little joke. Of course, the joke would depend on the recipient's knowledge of that.
Big Jack
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An Underwood quote from today's N-G that confirms what I've been saying: Coleman Hawkins sitting on the arc blunts the Illini offense. The defenders can sag off CH to clog the driving and passing lanes.
"Early in the game everything we did was Coleman getting to the rim," Underwood said. "He slipped (screens). We hit him for easy passes. When our team gets in trouble is when we quit running to the rim and quit putting pressure on the rim through cuts and through rolls. When Coleman pops too much, we're dead because there's no driving angles then. It has to be Coleman slipping and Coleman getting to the rim. Forcing defenders to tag. That opens everything else up."