Illinois 75, Indiana 71 OT Postgame

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illiniCA

DC Area
So they mentioned on the broadcast that January 9, 2010 was the last time Illinois won at Indiana. This was the starting line-up for Illinois in that game:

Bill Cole
Mike Davis
Mike Tisdale
D.J. Richardson
Jeffrey Jordan

Dominique Keller, Brandon Paul, and Demetri McCamey came off the bench for the Illini in that game. Tisdale led all scorers in that game with 27 points including 13-14 from the free throw line. Demetri McCamey had 19 points off the bench. Richardson also finished in double figures with 14 points.
They really took it to Jordan Hulls and Verdel Jones....
 
#202      
What previous "incident" was Rob referring to in the postgame presser with Lewis Garrison?
 
#204      
yeah i also said he missed 2-3 layups getting bumped (shrug), and missed a cpl he shouldve made. The 2 threes he missed were wide open. But its hard to call him a no show where he showed up in other places while still getting to double digits.

It's an off game for sure, but i usually think of no shows as not impacting the game at all or not showing effort in a bad game. Not really the case for ayo tonight
That's kind of the point, but it's not a measure of effort. Trying hard doesn't win games. It's a measure of production when it matters. He didn't play for the last 8+ minutes of the game and was 2-11 prior to that. I'm not sure what your angle is here.

Illinois wins. That's what matters. I-L-L
 
#207      
I couldn't believe coach kept playing him. He was making lots of mistakes and doing nothing on offense. I really don't understand how many miniutes he is getting when not playing well.
Playing freshmen is hard to do. You can't bench him because you can kill his confidence. You don't want him looking over his shoulder whenever he makes a mistake. He and Curbelo are their future. Have to have them out there experiencing this and pushing through it. They are. I am wondering about the decision to not have Hawkins in there for one minute. That's two games in a row. No questions asked about it in the presser. I'm surprised.
 
#208      
43 minutes for Trent and 38 for the big fella. Glad we had that break before iowa. Granted, it was the longest regulation time I've ever watched but still, that's a ton of minutes.
 
#210      
That's kind of the point, but it's not a measure of effort. Trying hard doesn't win games. It's a measure of production when it matters. He didn't play for the last 8+ minutes of the game and was 2-11 prior to that. I'm not sure what your angle is here.

Illinois wins. That's what matters. I-L-L
my angle is he impacted the game

10 pts, 6 boards, making the right read on the plays that got trent 8 pts in 1 minute to get the lead back, and causing turnovers are impacting the game no matter what you say. Between the 10 pts and making the pass on the 8-0 trent run, thats 1/4th of our points.

You can have an off game but also impact the game.



the entire game matters in an OT game we win by 4

fine if you disagree
 
#211      
No one has under valued Trent hes under valued himself it just goes to show how far expectations have fallen for him when everyone's all googly eyed about him scoring 19 pts when honestly he should be averaging 15+ pts every game even with Ayo because opportunities he just hasn't made his shots .
Nothing I saw from Trent tonight was impressive and its not because I dont think hes good but because its the caliber of play we saw 4 years ago from him and that should be expected of a player of his caliber .
If nothing you saw from Trent Frazier was impressive tonight, then you need to go rewatch the game, and that’s that...
 
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So they mentioned on the broadcast that January 9, 2010 was the last time Illinois won at Indiana. This was the starting line-up for Illinois in that game:

Bill Cole
Mike Davis
Mike Tisdale
D.J. Richardson
Jeffrey Jordan

Dominique Keller, Brandon Paul, and Demetri McCamey came off the bench for the Illini in that game. Tisdale led all scorers in that game with 27 points including 13-14 from the free throw line. Demetri McCamey had 19 points off the bench. Richardson also finished in double figures with 14 points.
Indiana was just terrible during those years. Everybody beat them. Those were my favorite Indiana teams. Haha
 
#217      
No one has under valued Trent hes under valued himself it just goes to show how far expectations have fallen for him when everyone's all googly eyed about him scoring 19 pts when honestly he should be averaging 15+ pts every game even with Ayo because opportunities he just hasn't made his shots .

If nothing you saw from Trent Frazier was impressive tonight, then you need to go rewatch the game, and that’s that...
Why would you make anyone rewatch that game?
 
#222      

AZHOHoops

Scottsdale, AZ
I know I'm beating the same drum, but My God those officials were terrible and should not be involved with any B1G games again.
 
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If nothing you saw from Trent Frazier was impressive tonight, then you need to go rewatch the game, and that’s that...
I agree. I think Trent is a victim of how people remember his previous seasons. He is basically shooting as well as he ever has this year, he just doesn’t shoot as much. Tonight he took 11 shots, which I believe now gives him 2 games this year he’s attempted 11 or more shots. I believe he had something like 20 such games his freshman year and about 15 his sophomore year. To me, given what he brings defensively now, this is his best season. Another impressive thing about his game tonight was in this foul fest, he played 43 minutes with only two fouls. That was huge with both Ayo and Curbelo in foul trouble.